Philips Hue switch??

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    Evening all, looking at getting some Philips Hue bulbs at home.

    One main question... What happens to your light switches?! Do they still function? If you have hue installed and flick the switch does it turn it off or are they useless?

    Some of our light fittings are 3 bulbs. Can you add 3 bulbs to one light and control them all with one action or do they need turning on/off individually?!

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    Good question!

    Your existing light switches are not recommended.. They will turn off the lights (but means they cannot be remote controlled), and turning back on will return them to default white light.

    Personally I twisted the wires together inside the wall switch (always on - or you could blank off the switch), and use the Philips Hue Dimmer switch, which is sticky-backed and you can stick up anywhere.

    Re-three bulbs - you can group them together. The Philips Hue app supports "rooms", and Siri / HomeKit supports "groups" within "rooms", so yes you can tie different bulbs together if you like.
     
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    Nice one, thanks for the quick reply.

    I really want to get Hue but just not sure it's worth it for me. We have 3 switches for the hallway and 6 bulbs. Some of the switches control upstairs and some outside lights so would have to put a few blanking plates on the wall and change some switches around. Thinking about how many bulbs id need plus the switches (the gf would refuse to just use her phone!) it looks like it'll cost a fair amount!
     
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    Ive always said dont like the electronics built into the bulb, it should be at the switch or elsewhere.

    Do you really need colour in the hallway
     
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    Not disputing what you are saying but why do you always have this opinion?
     
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    A bulb is a disposable item so throwing a lot away if it goes, or gets broken
     
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    A bulb which is guaranteed for a year.
     
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    I should hope so modern LEDS usually last about 5 years +

    Also not if you drop it or a power surge blows it though.
     
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    B&Q are doing the white dimmable bulb with screw fitting with the dimmable switch for £30 and the white bulbs for £15.
    That should reduce the cost a fair bit, if colour isn't required.
     
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    I just stick the dimmer next to the main switch.
    I would only want an adapted switch that keeps the physical switch.
    From a safety point of view it is important to be able to bypass the "smart" function in an emergency. People will instinctively flick a light switch a couple of times to get the light to work.
     
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    I think they are a little bulky, but when in situ look great. I can access the switch still and is a cheap alternative to smart wired in switches. I’ve changed most of mine now.
     

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    I got mine for this seller on eBay, the original switch is still easily accessible through a cutout behind the Hue remote which is just magnetised to the cover

    Items in 3D Print Concepts shop on eBay.
     
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    They look okay and I like that they have different thicknesses, but the height makes them look like the dimmer switch has been stuck over the top of a normal switch. What are they made from?
    I bought one from etsy from DFX and it was similar and ABS which was warped so not flush to the wall, so didn't use.
    I'm more than happy with the ones from eBay seller 1xxxxxxxxxx, who always seems to have stock. I prefer the shape and they also have an access hole. Some light switches are thicker than others and fancy ones have details, hence the extra bit of clearance behind.
     
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    I had a look at those, but they looked big and bulky which put me off.
    In your picture further up it looks huge and that the dimmer then sticks out even further.

    The rounded edges of the one I have makes it look less boxy, even though they probably stick out roughly the same amount overall.

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    Oh, and tell me. 1xxxxxxxx wouldn’t happen to be you would it @CharlieVictor ? Only you’ve only posted on AVF about those switch covers and the eBay seller used to have a username of biddercv which seems rather too much of a coincidence for those of us with a suspicious mind.
     
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    As an ex sparky, not recommended. You always need a switch for isolation. What if there is a fault with the fitting, or you want to safely change the bulb? Whatever the reason it's a requirement of the IEE Regs there is a switch for isolation. One that kills the power totally.

    If you want, switch it on and leave it. Or sometimes use it as a light switch. The worst that happens is it acts as a light switch and if off the light is off and switch on it comes on as a white light. That's it.
     
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    Sonic67, I wholeheartedly agree! Safety first. I have a friend who did this and now he is refitting the switches and using switch plate covers after I informed him of their existence.
     
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    I’ve just noticed your archived classified ad which confirms you are in fact the eBay seller. Why are you pretending that you’ve purchased from yourself? No wonder you are so happy with the product!

    Pathetic
     
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    @CharlieVictor, it's not really a smart move to promote your own eBay sales on here.

    Firstly, promotion is against the rules and if you wish to advertise, you have to pay an AA fee - which I'm guessing you don't want to do.
    Secondly, there are a lot of eagle-eyed members who also frequent eBay and will spot you from a mile away.
    Thirdly, it incurs a ban and - you're now banned.

    I'm leaving Charlie's posts intact purely because if I remove them, the thread will make no sense but, I have removed all links to his listings.

    As you were.
     
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    I can see the benefits from a safety perspective and it is convenient to have a local isolation point but is this really a requirement of the IEE regs?

    What about when no-neutral smart switches are used which are effectively permanently live? or even when lighting circuits are spider wired from a central control panel with a local switch/touchscreen linked to the central control panel, but not the lighting circuit, to control the lights in the room? Do these also require a local isolation point?

    I am never sure if local isolation is a requirement, good practice or we just do it because someone told us to...I'm not criticising your statement but I'm here to learn so I'm keen to understand.
     
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    I purchased these, would rather these switch covers than two separate switches and I wouldn’t remove the standard switch. I think they look quite good. My only criticism is the magnet isn’t as strong as the backplate it comes with
     
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    What about if the switch cover came with an integral switch which replaces the standard switch, that way it could be more flush with the wall?

    I'm contemplating making an integral solution but not sure if the demand is there, probably in a gloss ABS rather than a 3D print matt finish.
     
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    Sounds like a lot of effort and increased costs for very little gain. The existing style of covers work well enough and are unobtrusive IMO.
     
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    Good point...as you bought one, do you think there is a demand for these??
     
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    Certainly seems to be, the seller I got mine from on eBay sells out pretty quickly. I contacted him yesterday as I need a double switch/single remote cover and they are apparently going back up for sale tomorrow at 7pm
     

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