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Philips DVDR-80 question before purchase...

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by rupbert, Dec 9, 2003.

  1. rupbert

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    Really like the idea of the guideplus feature, and the Home Cinema Choice review was very praiseworthy...

    However, in the review it states that the guideplus is 'downloaded' from a standard RF aerial; and later when discussing the recorded picture quality it mentioned 'as most people will be recording from rf'...

    Now have I missed something, or does this mean that if you want to record using the guideplus 'epg', it has to be from an rf input? Surely the quality is awful?!?

    How do you record from RGB out on a skybox then? Does the rf go into the Sky box first?
     
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    Don't think it'll work on Sky but it would be strange if it doesn't work on freeview.

    RF recording is not "awful" but looks similar to what your picture is from RF without recording. There is obviously mpeg compression degradation which is much worse if there is any noise in the signal but with a reasonably good signal it shouldn't be too bad.

    Sky is not the greatest signal either and already has mpeg artifacts, but does provide reasonable recordings which are improved by the fact they are often in anamorphic widescreen and therefore using all the available lines.

    If you have a plasma or a pj then it's better to have RGB in but not crucial.
     
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    You do not have to record from the RF input. The Guideplus data is carried on the ITV1 signal which is received by the DVDR80 through the aerial input, so you need to have an aerial. Guideplus will cover all channels on Sky and Freeview and the DVDR80 will switch channels on your sky box remotely at the appropriate times when recording and will record using RGB on the scart input.
     
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    All that said, it seems a lot of DVDR 70/75/80 owners have having the same old Philips reliability problems they had with the 880/890/1000 units they've replaced.

    It's all well and good having these whizz-bang features, (and I've seen owners moaning the GuidePlus system is also flawed) but if the recorder doesn't record in the first place or freezes half-way through a film with a "Disc Error", all the gizmo's in the world won't make up for that. I'd get a Panasonic!!!

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    You can save yourself a lot of problems by steering clear of the
    DVDR80.
    Have a look at a.o. dvdplusrw.org and it'll probably tell you there are unfortunately some problems/issues with the setup of the EPG and this device.
    Another thing is that it is difficult to set a timer without the EPG features, so if you don't get it to work properly (download channels) you are in for some phone calls to tech support.
    I would also recommend e.g. Panasonic, Pioneer, JVC or Sony instead.
    Those devices also feature nice GUI, often even nicer looking than those of the DVDR80 (but that being my own perception).
    If you would have been in the US, the pioneers offer a (superior) kind of 'EPG' using builtin Tivo.
    A (hardcopy) program guide and Gemstar video+/Showview - if you like with VPS/PDC turned on- is as easy to operate IMHO and won't ever let you down.
    If you do like a Philips ('+' format) though, you could also get the new DVDR77 with picture manager instead. It is a great looking, slim designed recorder.
    Good luck.
     

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