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Philips 32pf9986 LCD. The Verdict..

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by JH4, May 13, 2004.

  1. JH4

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    Philips 32PF9986 LCD: First off, this is a heavy set. Two people are needed to lift it onto the supplied wall bracket. Also comes with a table stand in the box.
    The surround may be too wide for some - black then silver , then the flat speakers, then a thin clear surround ( a bit like Sony)
    Channel and Vol. controls are on the top of the set. The I/Ps are along the bottom. I used RGB and "S" (Freeview, $ky and a PS2 ) with the Scarts. ("S" is via a Scart not a separate "S" I/P)
    Picture: No dead pixels. Black level as good as the black surround. Scrolling text and fast movement - no problems so far.
    Some very slight pixillation, sometimes, but this could be due to the source signal bit rate.
    Games on PS2 are excellent.
    Factory presets had the colour and contrast set too high.
    The freeze frame is good for adjusting these. Metal fronted stylish remote. Programable side "ambilights" are a nice touch, especially in the evening. Can also be used when the set is off. Set also comes with a PDF File on CD.
    Finally, a good word for the supplier ( see earlier post) - a phone call, an EMail and prompt delivery.
    They may clean up with this set... !
     
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    Sounds great - I am sorely tempted myself!

    Can anyone beat £2189 for this set?

    As I am new to these sets is it work investing in the extended warranty? Personally I would not bother with a CRT Tv but I am not sure if LCD technology is still too new.

    Thanks for any pointers,

    Mark
     
  3. JH4

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    Update:
    Having seen the set working now in a dark room, maybe the black is'nt quite as dark as I previously stated !
    It's still the best I have seen so far on an LCD tho...
     
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    JH4

    What inputs are on this set? Has it got components like the old 30" if so do you know if there interlaced/progressive and anything about the HDTV capabilities?

    (480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i).
     
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    JH4,

    any chance of upping the pdf to the web so that we can have a read? :rolleyes: (presumably it has technical specs, etc).

    What is the detail like on the picture, does Pixel Plus 2 make a difference, how does it handle fast moving scenes, in a dark room does the picture look really grey?, ...... too many questions !!

    any more info would be great.
     
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    I heard from Philips that there were no component inputs on this set (crazy if you ask me, and a shame as I would have bought one otherwise). See specs details here:

    http://www.press.ce.philips.com/press/2004-2-23-Cebit2004-577.html

    Can anyone confirm this finally by attaching a component signal, either interlaced or progressive?
     
  7. JH4

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    Update 2:
    First an apology. There is an "S" input. It's on the L/H side of the set along with a headphone socket.
    The PC DVI i/p (there is a VGA to DVI adaptor supplied) will accept High Definition: 1920x1080i, 1280x720p.
    I cannot do a side by side TV comparison of Pixel+1 and 2, so I cannot tell how much better the P2 is, but there is the usual split screen demo. It looks great tho..
    Incidently, when you first switch on, don't panic if you don't see a picture. It takes a few seconds to fire up !
     
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    I have a 9986 on order from BE Direct (same firm as you're talking about above I think).
    They have said that they don't know when they are getting stock from Philips (Philips end rather then BE end).
    Owen.
     
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    Thanks JH4. I have a newbie question. As you can get VGA d-sub (from a PC) to component adaptors, does that mean that you can effectively feed a component signal through the DVI adaptor?

    Having said that, I don't understand how an adaptor can adapt an analogue VGA signal to DVI. Does it have a little box of tricks in it?
     
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    Will this screen support the native resolution on 1366x768 on the DVI input?
    I am looking for an LCD to hook up to an HTPC and would want to drive the screen in the native resolution rather than have any scaling handled by the screen.

    QUOTE]Originally posted by jrecampbell
    Thanks JH4. I have a newbie question. As you can get VGA d-sub (from a PC) to component adaptors, does that mean that you can effectively feed a component signal through the DVI adaptor?

    Having said that, I don't understand how an adaptor can adapt an analogue VGA signal to DVI. Does it have a little box of tricks in it?
    [/QUOTE]

    PC's graphics cards often have a DVI connector that can output a DVI or VGA analogue signal. A connection adapter simply sends the secondary VGA signal to the appropriate output pins on the VGA analogue connection. So really the connection adapater doesn't adapt the signal, its just that the graphics card provides both signals.

    Conversion from component to DVI would require special hardware. An HTPC with a Sweetspot capture card and a DVI output would provide a component to DVI scaler (as well as supporting other inputs). There's probably a simplier solution for going directly from component to DVI tho.
     
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    Does it have HDMI input?
     
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    no component inputs?

    thats just stupid
     
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    Received mine from BE Direct yesterday.

    Much bigger than I thought, but I have gone from a 21" to this. It does look more like a 42". But I'm not complaining!!

    Have connected DVD, Sky via scart and X-Box through the side connections as I cannot find the Scart adaptor for it.

    Picture quality of the DVD and X-Box is very impressive. Sky, however, was not as good, but I believe this is due to my signal strength being only 60%, as it was never perfect on my old TV.

    Picture quality through standard aerial is brilliant also.

    After tweeking the picture settings, and there are a few, I have improved the picture even when watching Sky.

    Ambilight is very impressive, colours change very quickly with whatever is on your screen.

    Overall I am impressed with this set, having demoed a number of other LCD TV's, I think Philips have got it right. Especially with the price from BE-Direct. Comet are now selling it for over £800 more!!

    I give this TV a big :thumbsup:
     
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    More info in this set can be found via a convoluted method...

    Goto www.philips.com/home-entertainment and select the Germany site - you will find an English site (Philips are in the process of translating the site, but for now it is in English). You want the left TV box. The 32PF9986 is listed under 23/30 inch Flat TV.

    Howerver, information is still sparse. This is its information on inputs:

    A/V connections : Side AV Connections

    Can anyone actually list the AV connections this box has? I can not believe that it does not have component input. Im after RGB or preferably progressive component, with the option of HDMI or DVI/HDCP at native resolution for future use.

    -Ian
     
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    32PF9986 Connections:
    Bottom of set:
    Ext1 Scart: CVBS,RGB.
    Ext2 Scart: CVBS,Y/C,RGB
    Ext3 Scart: CVBS
    DVI + audio: VGA,SVGA,XGA,
    EDTV:640/720 X 480p, 720 X 576p.
    HDTV:1920 X 1080i, 1280 X 720p.
    Service port.
    Audio out L/R, Centre in, Subwoofer out.
    Antenna in.

    Side connections:
    In: Video,Audio L/R, "S" VHS, Headphone socket.
     
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    Newbie question now we've got the specs and I don't understand the terminology...

    Will this support PAL/NTSC progressive via component?

    What about HDMI (DVI-HDCP) ?
    And at native resolution without scaling ?

    Thanks

    Ian
     
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    Does anyone know of anywhere in the south of england that is demo-ing this LCD?
     
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    Can someone with a 32PF9986 give me the overall dimensions (w x h x d) in cms and the weight in Kg.

    These items are (still) marked as "tbc" in Philips marketing blurb,

    Thanks

    Nigel
     
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    Philips 32PF9986 LCD.
    Weight: 20 Kg. (Inc packaging 32Kg.)
    Dimensions: W 1000 X H 605 X D 96 mm.
    Packaging dimensions: W 1061 X H 786 X 265 mm
    Power consumtion: 185 W. Standby: 2 W.
     
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    Wonderful - thanks just what I needed.

    Nigel
     
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    ... and if you use the supplied mounting bracket, the front of the set will be 10 cm from the wall.
     
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    We'll be likely using the std table top stand. Is this the same/similar to the one supplied with the 30PF9975 ? Is there a picture of it anyway on the web? (only pics I can find show the unit bare of any stands).

    Cheers
    Nigel
     
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    What's the native res of this panel?
     
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    The stand comprises of a glass plate size approx 710mm x 230mm. Then a metal plinth is on top of it with the support frame fixed to that. The TV sits 65mm high when on this.

    I think the new stand looks much nicer, especially as the plinth is the same material as used on the TV surround.

    Chris
     
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    chris any chance of a digital pic to show what it looks like on the stand? I'm having difficulty visualising what you describe....

    Nigel
     
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    Have not got my digi camera at home, but have this picture I found on the net.

    [​IMG]
     

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    Philips 32PF9986 LCD.
    The Resolution is WXGA 1366 X 768p.
    Aspect ratio is 16:9
    Response time < 12mS
    Brightness 450 cd/m2
    Contrast ratio 800:1
    Viewing angle 170 H, 170 V
    Pixel + 2
    Progressive scan
    Comb filter
    Jagged line suppression
    Digital natural motion.

    Hope this all helps.
     
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    chris

    thanks for the pic, makes sense now! And a definite improvement over the previous std table top stand (/feet).

    Nigel
     
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    Is this making any scheduled appearences in the United States anytime soon?

    I am searching for an LCD TV above 30 inches but below 40.

    This seems ideal.

    Any additional info for US customers?
     
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    JH4,
    what is your viewing distance, and what would you say a comfortable minimum would be?
    cheers, Owen.
     

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