Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by IanW, Jul 24, 2001.
So which one are people buying??????
Neither - I thought it was rubbish
i thought it was crap to but if i had to get a copy region 1 mate.that way you know your getting the best copy lol.
Best copy? On what grounds? As far as I'm aware R1 and R2 are identicle bar more TV lines on R2 and it's released a day early!
90% of the time I go for R1 but in this case I believe R2 version is the better option.
I am going for R2 for the same reasons as mentioned before, they are going to be identical. Also the R2 version is released a day before the R1 version.
Thats my view on it anyway
I'm actually going to buy the R4 and the R1 and compare them. Then keep the best one.
That'll be down to the difference between PAL & NTSC.
I think due to the conversion perocess, PAL runs about 3% faster.
(Just don't ask me to explain it )
I did read a really good explanation on this BB, can't remember the poster though.
In my experience this R1 / R2 which is best NTSC or PAL is a red herring.
There is alot more to this quality lark that standard differences. The quality of print being the major differnce in my book. Just look at the fifth element example, no one is going to tell me that they didn't come from different quality / generation prints. Braveheart is another example, only in the other dirrection.
The only way to tell is buy both versions and try them.
PAL runs 4% faster - a 24 fps film runs at 25 fps, equating to runtimes 2.4 minutes faster for every hour of film.
One thing that I did notice was that on PLAY247 they were showing that the R1 is 4 minutes longer than the R2 Is this the case?
Surely this is a bit costly
Region 4. I want the quality of PAL at a reasonable price.
Although there is a theoretical improvement in video quality of PAL over NTSC, generally the differences are small and much less than the differences that can arise during the transfer/mastering process.
Typically, R2 titles have many more languages and/or subtitles on them which eats into the bandwidth that might otherwise have been used for picture. In some cases (Titan AE) you get DTS on R1, missing from R2.
Also, anyone who uses progressive scan will, at present (skyworth excepted) get a better presentation from an NTSC item than a PAL one.
Mainly for this last reason, I tend to favour R1. Unless, of course, there is some other benefit of R2 eg the right aspect ratio (eg Raw Deal, Austin Powers1) or a better version of the film (Austin Powers1 again).
In the case of TPM, I'll probably go R1.
Variations in runtimes as follows:
Original Film Runtime/NTSC DVD Runtime
Approx. PAL DVD Runtime
83 minutes 80 minutes
90 minutes 86 minutes
100 minutes 96 minutes
110 minutes 106 minutes
120 minutes 115 minutes
130 minutes 125 minutes
140 minutes 134 minutes
150 minutes 144 minutes
160 minutes 154 minutes
170 minutes 163 minutes
180 minutes 173 minutes
190 minutes 182 minutes
Hope that helps a few folk out.
The picture quality of PAL and NTSC is probably similar although PAL does (potentially) have greater line resolution.
It's the 'juddering' on NTSC caused by the pull down that I don't like.
Some people just don't notice it but I (unfortunately) do. Threrfore, I much prefer the smooth presentation of PAL......
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