Perpetual Motion Claim Probed?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Reign-Mack, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. Reign-Mack

    Reign-Mack
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Messages:
    2,217
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    Central London
    Ratings:
    +213
    page 2
     
  2. Setenza

    Setenza
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2002
    Messages:
    3,349
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Ratings:
    +226
    Call me old fashioned, but I'll beleive it when I see a practical demonstration or the story is substantiated by a reliable body such as the BBC or The Nursing Mother.
     
  3. Hitby

    Hitby
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Messages:
    4,805
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Middlesbrough
    Ratings:
    +546
    Well... It appears Steorn have finally got their prototype running ;) More information and videos at http://www.steorn.com - the engineers video is definitely worth a watch. Now... I'm as sceptical as the next person but what if, just, what if this is true. It's completely game changing. If it does prove to be true I can see the oil markets collapsing which could be catastrophic for many parts of the world.
     
  4. stainless-steel

    stainless-steel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2006
    Messages:
    758
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +213
    Steorn Ltd is a small, private technology development company in Dublin, Ireland. It announced in August 2006 it had developed a technology which could produce "free, clean, and constant energy" in violation of the law of conservation of energy,[2] a fundamental principle of physics.[3]

    Steorn challenged the scientific community to investigate their claim[4] and, in December 2006, said that it had chosen a jury of scientists to do so.[5] In June 2009 the jury gave its unanimous verdict that Steorn had not demonstrated the production of energy.[6][7] Nevertheless, Steorn maintain that they will be launching their technology commercially at the end of 2009.[6][8]


    Interesting reading....;)

    No doubt this exciting new development in perpetual motion machines will be sabotaged, or the rights bought by the evil oil companies only to be locked away in their deepest darkest vaults along with all the other perpetual motion machines.

    Thus denying mankind limitless free energy and condeming us all to certain death at the hands of global warming.

    Damm the New World order and the oil companies!

    However it looks like we're all saved as they're licencing the technology, just send them a stamped addressed envelope with your cheque enclosed and no doubt you'll recieve an exciting information pack explaining their limitless investment possibilities!

    Who's going first then?
     
  5. signs

    signs
    Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    Messages:
    21,490
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    nr burton on trent
    Ratings:
    +3,316
    If this is true my Dads going to be a bit peeved off,he's been trying to crack this little chestnut since i was a kid.

    He even took his lathe to Spain when he went to carry on his work.
     
  6. kav

    kav
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Messages:
    25,488
    Products Owned:
    10
    Products Wanted:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +13,816
    One of the first things you learn at school in science class is energy can neither be created nor destroyed. At the moment I'm filing this as marketing ploy. Would be nice if it was true though.
     
  7. Hitby

    Hitby
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Messages:
    4,805
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Middlesbrough
    Ratings:
    +546
    Exactly, they're claiming that the laws of energy don't apply any more. Personally, I've got my fingers crossed :rotfl:
     
  8. stainless-steel

    stainless-steel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2006
    Messages:
    758
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +213
    They've probably cracked the Panther electron//bounce theorum. Just think of the possibilities.:thumbsup:
     
  9. CraigofScotland

    CraigofScotland
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Messages:
    5,267
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +886
    There has to be losses, just has to be! otherwise my mind will impolode!!

    I await credable testing, not some small interent firm saying they did it.

    AVF HAS NUCLEAR REACTORS THAT CAN POWER A MOON BASE . . .there. IT must be true.
     
  10. Hitby

    Hitby
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Messages:
    4,805
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Middlesbrough
    Ratings:
    +546
    lol, GAINS man GAINS! Losses are for losers. We'll soon be driving along and pumping power back INTO the national grid at the end of our journey. Did you watch the engineers video? Some well respected and sceptical engineers came out and said "I either have to believe what I've seen with my own eyes or I have to deny it. I can't deny it."
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2009
  11. Noggin1980

    Noggin1980
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2005
    Messages:
    6,821
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,175
    :rolleyes::rotfl:
     
  12. Iccz

    Iccz
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Messages:
    24,061
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Keystone City
    Ratings:
    +6,750
    I point you to my signature :D
     
  13. GasDad

    GasDad
    Remembered (1964-2012)

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    5,407
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +758
    Which sort of implies AVF doesn't follow the laws of thermodynamics.
     
  14. Hitby

    Hitby
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2005
    Messages:
    4,805
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Middlesbrough
    Ratings:
    +546
    What - AVForums don't believe in energy gains? Controversial!
     
  15. Iccz

    Iccz
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Messages:
    24,061
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Keystone City
    Ratings:
    +6,750
    :rotfl:

    I knew that would happen :facepalm:
     
  16. stainless-steel

    stainless-steel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2006
    Messages:
    758
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +213
    I had to laugh when I saw that their demonstrator was attached to a rechargeable battery, which was naturally being recharged by the machine's excess.:rotfl:
    Would the machine stop if the battery wasn't attached, that's the $64m question!

    I suspect it would, there would be nowhere for the excess energy to go, the machine would slowly grind to a halt as it reached equilibrium with the universe.;)
     
  17. CraigofScotland

    CraigofScotland
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Messages:
    5,267
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +886
    Hey his opinions expressed here do not represent those of the AV Forums or its associated websites nor does he belive in this witch craft op posted!! BURN HIIIIIMMM
     
  18. IronGiant

    IronGiant
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2003
    Messages:
    65,482
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    .
    Ratings:
    +45,294
    OK AVF boffins, where do we think the extra energy is coming from?

    a) nowhere it's a hoax...

    b) from the magnets

    c) ?

    Dave
     
  19. GasDad

    GasDad
    Remembered (1964-2012)

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    5,407
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +758
    a) almost certainly.

    Possibly

    c) From the vaccumm energy of empty space.

    I'd give c) a 1/ (a countable infinity) chance of being true.
     
  20. CraigofScotland

    CraigofScotland
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Messages:
    5,267
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +886
    What they may have is a near 100% efficient rotory machine.

    It spins, with such a minimal loss that it has not been detected yet. Sort of like freezing elec cables to absolute zero to negate energy loses (hasnt been done but close too it has been done)

    but i cry hoax. Otherwise we just solved global warming and other world issues in 1 step. Strange that it comes around the same time as the world is focused on cuting energy pollution etc in copenhagan.
     
  21. stainless-steel

    stainless-steel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2006
    Messages:
    758
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +213
    To be pedantic it hasn't been proven, or even demonstrated that there is any extra energy liberated.

    If they did manage to prove it then.....a) for sure.
     
  22. OldAndSenile

    OldAndSenile
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    564
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +55
    This guy very publicly came out a few years ago and said he was going to give a live, public demo of the technology he was using. Unsurprisingly, they cancelle, claiming "technical issues" at the last minute, and had pretty much disappeared off the radar until now.

    No doubt he'll be asking for another huge investment of cash to "improve" his concept for the next 5 years before releasing a commercial product, and they we'll see him disappear into nowhere.

    If he really had "invented" perpetual motion, he'd be screaming from the hilltops, looking for as much scientific backing as possible, instead of working in this very clandestine way, surely? He'd be lauded as the saviour of the planet and be a billionaire from the publicity alone, so why bother trying to make money out of it this way?
     
  23. SecretSquirrel

    SecretSquirrel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    324
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ratings:
    +68
  24. GasDad

    GasDad
    Remembered (1964-2012)

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    5,407
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +758
    Imagine it though ! (or if say Fleishman and Pons had been (or are!) correct)

    It might solve an lot of problems, but politically and economically it would create thousands more.
     

Share This Page

Loading...
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice