To keep boxes to a minimum, I think I would like to get a hard disk drive recorder with a built in Free-view tuner (or maybe go the SKY TV route and get the equivalent box for that). The one thing that puts me off is there may be occasional times when I might want to keep a permanent recording of something on disk. So maybe I should buy a DVD recorder instead? It seems to me that a possible solution might be to record onto the hard disk recorder then somehow hook this up to my computer and use the DVD writer on that to make a permanent copy. Would this be possible, and if so how? And would I then be able to play this on a DVD player? Thanks.