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  1. (GTV)Chris

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    Hi

    I have managed to create a WMV file of the Pearl and dean advertising clip.
    I know this may sound sad, but is there any way I can have it open up in Theatertek before a movie begins??????

    I created it using the Flash movie from the P&D website and then married it up to a better sounding MP3 file and converted it to WMV.

    Any suggestions welcome :)


    Cheers

    Chris
     
  2. Mr.D

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    My wife asked me this very thing last night!
     
  3. (GTV)Chris

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    I was no where near Bermuda.......:D

    Have you found a solution??

    Cheers
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  4. Mark Ward

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    I'm interested in an answer to this too, but I'd like to assure you that you are not sad.

    SAD would be someone who actually wrote to Pearl & Dean and got permission to use their advertising clips and even got them to send him it. Now THAT is sad. :blush:

    BTW. They sent it to me on VHS and I've yet to work out how to get it on my HTPC:confused:

    Mark.
     
  5. (GTV)Chris

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    I bet it's better than my effort.

    I work in TV, so transferring a VHS to a usable format shouldn't be that difficult...if your interested.

    Or using a capture card on a pc you should be able to feed it with a composite signal and capture the incoming pictures and sound.

    Is it the old style P&D or the new one?

    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    If you're prepared to use zoomplayer as the front end it has a "trailers" feature that you could try

    Phil
     
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    What was the address Mark?

    I phoned them once, and they said they would send me somethig, but never did. emails didn't get any reply.

    It seems that writing is the only way - I wonder if they do DVDs now? :)

    Gary.
     
  8. Mr.D

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    Well theatertek is supposed to handle playback from HD so...
    capture the sting compress it to a suitable format then use theatertek to play it back from HD... if you use a frontend you might be able to use a command line to play back the relevant file before TT then goes for the relevant dvd drive . Whether this is possible or practical I don't know... quick trawl on th tt user forum might help
     
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    A simple Windows way of getting trailers to play - create a playlist of the movie files you want to use as your opening sequence, then put the playlist into the startup directory.

    If TT or PowerDVd etc are your associated players, then when windows starts, it will play the playlist. Then use your remote etc to start the DVD. A bit clunky, but works well if you don't use Zoomplayer which is probably the best program for doing this transparently.

    I currently have the P&D music as my Windows start music, then a DD trailer, followed by a DTS trailer. I then play the DVD.

    Porky Pig's " That's All Folks' is the windows shutdown music. Brings a smile to most peoples faces when they've never seen/heard it before. :laugh:)

    Very simple, but it works.

    Gary
     
  11. Mark Ward

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    Actually I emailed them too, though I did a structured letter by email.

    "Dear Sirs... I have a home cinema and would very much like to ....blah, blah, blah etc."

    The video quality is not very good BTW. I'll have a bash at importing it into my PC for cleaning up. I've a feeling that the P&D mp3 sound file that is around had better sound so I may tray and use that with the graphics from the video.

    Mark.
     
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    Another *sad* way of dealing with this is

    - take the tune (Asteroid) from a commercial CD and save it as a wav.
    - look closely at the filmstrip animation that is on their website (as a shockwave flash movie)
    - use a drawing tool (I used Powerpoint) to recreate the images of the various filmstrips and the blue/magenta shaded background and save all these as graphic files
    - use a video editor (Ulead Media Studio) to assemble and animate the filmstrips in the right places/sizes over the coloured background, and add the sountrack
    - save the result as an AVI.
    - convert the AVI to mpeg1 using tmpgenc
    - burn to a video CD
    - play in DVD player.
     
  13. (GTV)Chris

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    the way i did it was to go to thier website, then play the flash movie.
    It then sits in the temp directory so I saved it to the desktop. Or right click save as....

    http://www.pearlanddean.com/intromovie.swf

    Using a nifty little programme called swf2avi I created 600 Bmp images then using the same tool created an AVI.

    I downloaded the music from TVCREAM's website as an MP3.
    http://tv.cream.org/themes/themes4.htm

    Using Mp3&wav converter I made a Wav file.

    Then married the two together in SOUNDFORGE, which you can get an evaluation version of (I think).

    Hey presto - it's done. Although it is about 69mb at the mo and i don't know how to reduce the size without ccompromising the quality.

    I don't know if i can paste it anywhere for download if anyone wants a copy??

    (Oh, I also made it anamorphic but does have a bit of a border round it)


    Chris
     
  14. Mark Ward

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    If you can put it in webspace somewhere I'd love a copy chris!:) 69Mb isn't THAT big. I'd keep it uncompressed for the quality if I were you.

    I'm sure it will be far better than the iffy quality VHS tape I have from P&D. Still, it was very nice of them to send it to me.

    Now, to search out old "Kiora Orange", "King Cone" and "Frankies" ads for the full nostalgia trip.
     
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    Not very good at website authoring.

    Is there a free webspace available that will take the 69mb??

    Is there another way of posting the file to a third party site for download??

    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    Well as I've got quite a lot of hi-end compositing packages knocking around if someone sends me the P and D footage on cd I could clean it up or reformat it a bit if necessary. ( make it anamorphic and try to shift it around a bit to avoid cropping or a border.Would prefer single image files rather than an AVI stream but its still doable.

    I downloaded/bought the TT upgrade to 1.5 : now I just have to pluck up the courage to update all the relevant drivers on my wonderfully stable HTPC and hope it doesn't turn it into a clunk mess!

    I'd like to be able to just pop a dvd in the drive and TT plays the P&D sting from the HD before loading up the dvd .
     
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    69MB is a big drain on most peoples bandwidth allowance and storage space.
    How about putting it in a shared folder on eMule/eDonkey, Shareaza or similar? I have just found the mp3 file for Pearl & Dean on Shareaza's network.
     
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    Mr D

    I have sent you a PM.

    Cheers

    C
     
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    Is this the old classic one or the newer one on the site. I can probably pull it off vhs and clean it up a fair bit and anamophicise it too.
     
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    Mr D


    It is on its way to you.
    I too would be interested to kmow whether Mark's version is the old one...that is the one I remember more fondly.


    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    It's the 1952 to 2003 50 Year anniversary one, the modern one. I looked at it again just now and it's really very poor quality.

    Colour bleed and muffled sound.

    I think a mocked up one from the SWF file would be prefereable.

    Mark.
     
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    fair enough
     
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    you know I have to be honest, I though this thread was a little sad until I just realised what being sad actually means. My definition is how I followed the earlier link to tv.cream.org and have spent the last 2 hours singing along to "Bagpuss" and "Chorlton and the Wheelies"... I bow my head in shame :(

    Now, can I get a quick rendition of "Bod" before my films start :D
     
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    Hehe, I bought the Bod DVD a few weeks back. Ah, nostalgia :D
     
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    LOL :)
     
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    I can host these for you, for a week at least.

    Mail me and we can sort out how to get them to me. (ian@magsy.net)
     
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    Chris has kindly sent me what he had put together, his AVI, orginal image files and wav of the audio can be found here :-

    http://magsy.net/pearlanddean.zip (40 mb)

    I had a play around and tried to improve, I think I have but you can decide. The swf to avi convertor is lacking the nice scaling ability the internet explorer plugin has, subsequently it wont scale to a large size without the jaggies.

    This is the best I could do...

    http://magsy.net/pearl+dean.mpg (Mpeg2 @ 4mbps, 256k Audio, 768x576 centred within a 4x3 frame. 10mb)

    http://magsy.net/pearl+dean.avi (Divx 5.0.5 @ 2.5mbps, Lame VBR a.p.s Audio, 768x576 centred within a 4x3 frame. 2mb)


    Ian
     
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    Seems pretty good to me. :)

    Now all we need is the original P&D on video for nirvana.

    Gary.
     
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    I can't gain access the the site so I will try again later.

    But how about this...
    I came accross a 16MM site selling off old ads and some of the reels have the old pearl and dean "PILLARS" starting them off.
    The 400' reel costs £35......Oh boy am I sorely tempted.

    There is a better on of just the openers and closers (old style...for £19)

    Web address is

    http://www.derann.com/16mmlist.htm

    "6019 CINE ADS : Includes Pearl and Dean Opening (pillars) Elastoplast, Marvel, Marlborough, Australian Gold, Cadbury’s Smash, Alka Seltzer, Vaseline Lotion, Ponds Hairspray, Vaseline Shampoo, 2 x different Babycham, Gillette (Bond spoof) Midland Bank, P & D close, good overall colour print 400’. £34.99 "

    I can get it transferred at work for free and have it put onto digi beta and then import it into an AVID, then export it as a usable format on CD.....

    Hee hee


    Chris
     
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    Magsy...well done! The most impressive thing I've seen all weekend!

    If P&D had any true marketing sense they'd be doing this themselves...

    (How about a bimonthly subscription to a DVD with film trailers and ads..I'd certainly spin it to my select audiences at home whilst I did my final tweaks...would expect it to be free (or v.cheap) though).

    Regards,

    Ian Guinan
     

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