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PD7200 v PV500 - Which should I Buy?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by NewToyForXmas, Jul 13, 2005.

  1. NewToyForXmas

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    I am looking at a 42" plasma purchase with a budget of around £2,000 (give or take a few hundred if required) and I think, after hours trawling this forum, that I have pretty much narrowed it down to these two. I wondered if people could offer their opinion on what would be best for me. I know that this is a very subjective thing but there are some very knowledgeable people on this forum and something from my setup might suggest one over the other to the trained eye.

    My main viewing will be Sky+, with sport being my main interest. I also have a hefty DVD collection but am assuming that PQ for DVD's should be excellent on both. I will also probably hook up the XBox and PS2 to the setup as well but might relegate these to the upstairs room to keep them out of the way.

    My DVD player / recorder is the Panny E500.
    I currently also have the Pioneer NS-DV55 all in one system hooked up in my set up but planned to whip that out to the spare room and go with either the sound from the Plasma or hook some components to the E500 as it has 5.1 output.
    Sky+ will be the only other thing in the set up as far as I envisage.

    I'm torn between wall mounting and stand-mounting ... The PD7200 stand sounds quite sexy but wall mounting also flicks my switch (apart from the fact that my house is a new build and I'm not sold on the idea of burying the cables in my lovely new wall).

    I seem to have opened a decision-making hornets nest with this purchase and would appreciate any guidance / advice that you could offer.
     
  2. Sulis

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    Haven't seen a better SKY picture than the PV500, but then I've never seen a decently set up Hitachi... :)
     
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    Hi, I was in the same position myself and finally opted for the Hitachi 7200 :thumbsup: mind you it wasn't an easy choice to make.
     
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    Have you seen both sets in the flesh (so to speak) ?

    If it was in Comet, Curry's (even JL) then I wouldn’t judge too much on PQ as the out of the box settings on my 7200 were horrendous !!

    I spend a long time choosing an plumped for the 7200 on aesthetics (with no speakers), connectivity and reviews (not price as I paid full whack at JL to get the 5 year warranty).

    I'm 100% happy with my set .. it appears the logic of its operation is better than the PV500 ie I can map all AV inputs to buttons on my universal remote.

    PQ is superb on Sky (RGB Scart) and DVD (Component).

    I'm sure if I'd gone for the PV500 I'd be singing its praises too !! if you asked me to swap tomorrow ... I wouldn't :)
     
  5. azz

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    Same as mjm 2705 i went for hitachi based on looks and little difference in PQ. However i have recetly found put hitachi have a mean dead pixel policy unlike panasonic.

    Luckily no dead pixels yet (20hrs use )


    Azz
     
  6. Stampax

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    I thought with dead pixels you either have them or you dont- thus when you turn it on you find out straight away if you are one of the 'unlucky' ones?
     
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    Dead pixels/stuck -Im no expert but yes if your very unlucky at the start and i guess? more possibly with use

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    i have just gone for the pv500 from avsales with free wall mount and free dvd ram recorder :clap:
    ive spent countless hours trawling this and other forums for reviews :boring:

    eventually i went for the TH-42PV500B-HD VIERA at 2.373k.
    seems to be the better for conectivity.
    thats the only reason i went for the pv500. :D
     
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    Hello,

    I just ordered an 42pd7200, for me it was the right choice.

    I could compare it with the Pana500 and the Pio 435fde, I test all this
    plasmas with DVD's, HDTV and with cable TV... all this plasma's are
    great and the differences are very, very small, Finally the Hitachi wins for me, why ?

    - great colors
    - looks simply great
    - no buzz...
    - connections(hdmi, dvi, yuv, vga, etc.)
    - can be use without speaker
    - mot. swivel stand
    - price
    - in Switzerland comes with 2 years warranty

    Please before you buy a new plasma take your favorite DVD's an test them
    personally, it's the only way to be happy with your new baby...

    Sorry for my bad english...

    :) T69
     
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    I'd personally opt for a PD7200 'cos with Sky I think it is better than the PV500.

    In the PV500 owners thread, someone raves about the PQ with TV signals, only to say 'so long as you're more than 12 feet away'. This should tell you all you need to know about the PV500's processing...

    Other interesting notes about PQ - the new Panasonic's do have great dynamic contrast - the blacks are deep and the whites are better than the Hitachi....BUT the Panasonic's don't have good ('static?') contrast within one frame - dark scene detail is poor, and scenes which aren't bright can look washed out (just in the way that LCDs do). The Hitachi looks more natural and 'CRT' like in this respect, and more consistent across different material. This may be the opposite of what you have read/heard as people obsess over the dynamic contrast...

    all IMHO of course
     
  11. Badger0-0

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    I would agree to some extent.

    I've seen the panny 6 and 7.

    Whilst the blacks are without doubt superior on the panny, "plasticky" is the word that springs to mind about the picture.

    I've always been too scared to say it, for fear of looking a muppet.

    But I understand what you mean when you say the pictures look more natural :smashin:

    Black is all important it seems, but it's not the case for me.

    The detail on the 7200 walks all over the panny, IMO.

    But it's all subjective, isn't it??

    ATM, I have other concerns about Greens/blues on my 7200, but I'm sure its a settings problem.
     
  12. chedmaster

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    this thread truly is like opening a window on a hot, hot day. a breath of fresh air. Also an interesting point about the dynamic contrast of panny, may have great blacks, but at the expense of the contrast changing some are experiencing.
     
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    Reading the last few pages of the "....7200 what do you think" thread I thought 7200 owners were saying it had a dynamic contrast problem as well ?????

    Dave
     
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    Panny owners will say Panny, and so on...............

    Use the best judge your eyes!

    What would be a breath of fresh air was a pv500 owner saying the 7200 is better :)
     
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    Well I'm a Panny PV500 owner. The 7200 is mighty nice and really is a great deal at the price. Which one is better is very subjective 6 of one half a dozen of the other and you certainly wouldn't be making a bad choice by going for the Hitachi not by a long way.
     
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    Well said Ekko.

    Still on the fence mind :)

    Fresh air hard to come by in this heat!
     
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    Unless you can see both side by side with same feed and with settings adjusted to max both then you will never be 100% sure.
    I have just ordered a 42"PV500 as the black level on the 7200 was something I knew would annoy in time and I felt there was a slight degree of flicker as well which I know is down to the individual. I also felt there was a little less noise on screen with the Panny showing a SKY broadcast.
    Was very tempted by Hitachi as I could have got JL to match Richer sounds for £2K with the 5 year warranty but in the end I'm gonna have to live with the set for a 5 years and the 500 just floated my boat that bit better.


    The main issue is seeing both at their best and its very hard at present. A saleman in Comet told me they were getting a HD slitter system in so perhaps that might be something to look out for at your local store.

    Take your time and enjoy the quest its part of the fun :)
     
  18. NewToyForXmas

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    As I suspected, it would appear that there really isn't a right or a wrong answer to this teaser and I'm unlikely to be disappointed in either. Thanks for your input and it's reassuring to see that I've narrowed it down to a pair of good options. I'm going to try and see them both in action and make my mind up from there.

    On a related note then, does anyone know any good AV shops in Portsmouth or Reading. I know there is a Richer Sounds in Southampton so I might have a look down there as they seem to be well regarded generally as a company.
     
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    Hitachi may be the one to go for at the moment, judging by probs with panny
     
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    :confused: Got no problems with my pv500.
     
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    It does, but it's curable, whereas with the panny it's not, apparently.
    It's down to settings with the 7200.
     
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    Just to be argumentative :D but isn't the 42PD5200H the best value at the mo? Picture very similar to the PD7200, SKY 720p 50 Hz HD compatible (due to the "H" upgrade), and 1400 quid including an Hitachi portable DVD player.

    Plenty of cash left over to get yourself a nice twin tuner freeview tv box, or upgrade your sky box....

    Unless you live for a motorized stand!
     
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    Does the H imply it supports sky hd??? Now i am confused....
     
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    Yep, according to Hitachi, the H essentially signifies HD ready and will accept 720p at 50Hz with a HDCP compliant DVI or HDMI socket. Although I think the 42pd5200H also has some other upgrades including more scarts. Although I can't find a full spec for the new model - they all seem to list the spec of the old ("E" not "H") model. Anybody got a new "H" spec. link?
     
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    But what's the native resolution of the 5200H ... 1024 x 1024 ????
     
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    I hate quoting my own post but, yes, 1024 x 1024 it seems to be !

    So differences between 5200H and 7200 seem to be:

    - no digital inputs
    - no motorised stand
    - erm, thats it ????? :confused:

    I haven't seen the 5200H in the 'flesh' so I can't comment on styling.

    Having said all that .. I'm still a happy 7200 owner :thumbsup:
     
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    no digital inputs???? I thought it has two DVI inputs - thats digital isnt it?????
     
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    I have had exactly the same budget and dilemma, and recently a collegue and I went to evaluate both. I took an IMAX DVD which a helpful guy at Comet put on a Samsung player and walked it between the Hitachi 7200 and the Panasonic PV500. I'd already 'calibrated' my knowledge of what was just visible on my 19" 1280x1024 monitor and was amazed that both panels were better than that and about the same as each other. Both amazing pictures so its a hard choice. For me, its the Hitachi I think because it has much much more configuration - gamma etc - which the Pan does not have (although there may be a special eng menu). The Hitachi speakes come off too, leaving a minimalist gun-metal surround, although free-standing the Panasonic stand is nice. The only fly in the ointment is that someone on here mentioned that the Hitachi is actually a 1024x512 panel with interpolation to get 1024x1024, I dont know if this is true, and I personally did'nt notice.
    Bri
     
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    I might have caused that confusion (Sorry).
    I think I'm right in saying that the Hitachi screen IS 1024.
    It's just that it lights lines alternately, ie 512 lines at any one moment, 1st, 3rd 5th etc and then 2nd, 4th, 6th etc.
    I'm sure you get the idea.
    How this actually affects the quality of a HD picture, I don't know, but reports seem good.

    Hope that helps, mate (and hope I'm not wrong :rolleyes: )
     
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    This is badly misquoted (are you a journalist?):

    That was a bit unfair, I meant that you had to sit 12 feet away not to notice any MPEG artifacts on a crap signal.
    I had a flick through tonight and CSI was on Five - that looked good from 4-5 feet away as it is originally filmed with HD cameras (which does make the end picture look better)
    HD demos look ace from 2 feet away.
    About 200 hours on it now - best 2K I have ever spent.
     

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