PC Gaming Renaissance on the Horizon?

J

JayList

Guest
CAS FAN said:
OMG :eek: They are massive!! They take up the entire motherboard :eek: . I also dread to think of the power that a rig like that would take to get stable, probably need 2 PSU's!
Or one 360 PSU! :devil:
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
I'm sure we'll have PC gaming for as long as there are PC's but perhaps with small companies not with mainstream developers producing games.
That is rubbish - and if you don't mind my saying is clearly just meant to be an inflamatory statement. Are the major games companies going to 'drop out' of PC gaming? Of course not - as discussed above the profit margins are just too huge. The cost of a game just doesn't justify single platform release unless it that particular consoles 'killer game' (Halo 2 for example for the XBox) - even if the 'second platform' isn't as profitable as the original that doesn't mean it won't be released. If anything the PC is in the best possible position: it gets the best of all the consoles - take Call of Duty 2 for example which is getting a PC and XBox 360 release only. So hard luck for those with Sony or Nintendo consoles.

All the time their are PCs in mainstream useage then there will be mainstream developers and studios pushing to get their games into the PC gaming market.
 

wormvortex

Well-known Member
ain't 64bit athlons kinda standard now? and don't u need xp 64-bit edition anyways to use any 64 bit features?
 
O

Obuggrit

Guest
Looking at those dual 7800s it seems like they should start making motherboards designed specifically for GPUs, and have the CPU on a PCI-E board :p The amount of transistors in those 4 GPUs must outnumber the amount in the CPU and bridges 2 fold
 

AML

Well-known Member
Tigerblade said:
You'd buy a dual core gfx card yet you think SLi is a waste of money :confused: Dunno what you think dual core is but it in essence a 'space saving' SLi setup......

At the end of the day by using that philosophy why bother buying a dual core cpu now because only a handful of games use them at present...

why stop there? no use buying a 64bit cpu because there is nothing to use that to it's full potential yet....

Your logic confuses me.. :confused:

Why buy a Ferrari when the speed limit is 40mph? I'm guessing your a 'The glass is half empty' type of guy ;)
I realise that dual core systems will be one possible way in to the future. Its just pointless at this time to spend so much for such minimal returns.
Ive seen single cards being compared to SLI and even though SLI may have performed slightly better, it hardly warrants spending money for 2 cards.
At this time you dont get twice the performance.

Im saying that in the future once software is optimised to use Dual core CPU's and GPU's then we will see a boost in performance. I didnt say I would buy any of this stuff now did I ?

I said once Vista comes out. And once DUAL CORE GPU's come out.
Im not paying money for 2 cards just to satisfy NVidia.

I only want one card with 2 cores. Thats very different from SLI and probably much cheaper. Read my posts carefully mate.
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
AML said:
I only want one card with 2 cores. Thats very different from SLI and probably much cheaper. Read my posts carefully mate.
I'd put money on there being minimul difference between an SLi setup and a dual core gpu setup. Cheaper maybe, who knows.....but I don't think I'm far off it being a space saving solution for those who whould like a SLi rig. A friend of mine for example has a shuttle, he can't fit 2 cards in his pc but he reckons that the dual core GT will fit. This opens up another segment of the market, for those who can only have one card but can now have SLi performance, and those that have SLi motherboard's that can link 2 dual core card's up for an even bigger performance increase.

Like it or not that is the way of the pc hardware market....
 

AML

Well-known Member
True that space, or lack there of for shuttle users, may open a market for SLI type set ups using smaller single cards.

(whatever hapened to BTX? :confused: )

I still feel that buying 2 sepparate high end cards will be more expensive than a single card with 2 cores.

Lets not forget that SLI requires a special mother board with 2 slots, while a dual core card should fit in any single slot PCI-E mo bo.

Its similar to the way dual core CPU mo bo's dont need 2 individual slots for 2 CPU's

Wouldnt that save more space?

One thing that bothers me about SLI is that it leaves no room for any other kind of card to fit next to the graphics cards.
I mean, they take so much space, that Sound cards and any other kind of card wont fit in there.

Anyway, I dont see anyone talking about XFire. (ATi's dual card solution.)

In theory XFire should work better than SLI.
 
J

JayList

Guest
Tigerblade said:
I'd put money on there being minimul difference between an SLi setup and a dual core gpu setup. Cheaper maybe, who knows.....but I don't think I'm far off it being a space saving solution for those who whould like a SLi rig. A friend of mine for example has a shuttle, he can't fit 2 cards in his pc but he reckons that the dual core GT will fit. This opens up another segment of the market, for those who can only have one card but can now have SLi performance, and those that have SLi motherboard's that can link 2 dual core card's up for an even bigger performance increase.

Like it or not that is the way of the pc hardware market....
TigerBlade are you getting/have COD2 on your pc? Can you get a demo, and put it on your max settings. We can then compare a screenshot to 360?
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
JayList said:
TigerBlade are you getting/have COD2 on your pc? Can you get a demo, and put it on your max settings. We can then compare a screenshot to 360?
Yep got it, I'll sort a ss out in a bit :)

Full size shots or cropped?
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member


Thats full everything ingame, hdr enabled etc, 1280x720 (360 res) forced 8xS aa, 16x af, High quality, vsync enabled in Nvidia control panel.

I'll get some more when I get time later, if required :D

EDIT - same kinda shot ish, same settings but at 2560x1024



Probably looks stretched as it is spanned across 2 19" monitors, may look more in proportion on a widescreen monitor.
 
J

JayList

Guest
Probably looks stretched as it is spanned across 2 19" monitors, may look more in proportion on a widescreen monitor.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

Now we just have to wait for 360 to get out and I'll post the same shot.

Then we can compare side by side.

Two 19inch monitors!! :smashin:

I have just ordered a Sparkle GF 7800GT 256MB DDR3, PCI-E, Dual DVI, VIVO.

To upgrade my ICE q 2 turbo 800xt.

I need dual DVI for my screens. Can't wait to see it on the sharp lcd.
 

wormvortex

Well-known Member
is that cod2? graphics are knida disappointing, nowhere near as relistic as hl2 or fear, the trees look totally 2D
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
Tejstar said:
Those shots look dark - would it be possible to post some lighter shots?
I'll do some later tonight :thumbsup:

Personally I think HL2 looks better aswell, but this isn't the best ss of cod2, it is an awesome looking game :)
 
J

JayList

Guest
Tigerblade said:
I'll do some later tonight :thumbsup:

Personally I think HL2 looks better aswell, but this isn't the best ss of cod2, it is an awesome looking game :)
From my 10 mins in Game I'd say it may look slightly better on your pc. till we get a screenshot of the 360 it's an unfair comparison however.

:confused:
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
Yup I agree, altho I do admit it was alot better than I expected (360 version that is) . I'll get a shot of the very beginning with some people, they will be better shots.

Ok 1 of COD 2 : Same settings as b4 :


Compare that with Lost Coast full everything :


IMHO LC looks better.
 
J

JayList

Guest
Tigerblade said:
IMHO LC looks better.
I think HL2 has a more realistic look. COD2 seems to have lots of contrast, i.e less realistic blends in textures. Still looks pretty good though! On 360 or your Uber machine. :smashin:
 

Tejstar

Well-known Member
Yep, HL2 looks a lot better – the water effects are fantastic especially compared to the water effects I get on my pc. One can only drool… :p
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
Talking of a PC game renaissance check this puppy out;)







This game is AMAZING, EA have come up with the definitive PC driver, HDR is implemented brilliantly, the attention to detail is brilliant, from scratches/dents, to high powered cars struggling to get grip from fast acceleration.

Well addicted, and IMO looks better than anything, by FAR than I have seenon XB360.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Tigerblade said:
Well addicted, and IMO looks better than anything, by FAR than I have seen on XB360.
From the IGN review..

Depending on which version you buy, you'll also receive a different technical set of visuals. The PC, GameCube, and Xbox versions display minimal to no flickering or aliasing, while the PS2 version instantly gives away its limitations. The Xbox 360 version, easily the best looking of the bunch, offers several visual elements you won't see in the other games. EA laser scanned each car, which provides an even more realistic look to each vehicle, and its Canadian development team normal mapped both the cars and the streets, giving each a crisp, sharp appearance. Somewhat like the streets in NFSU, the streets appear wet when they're not, a result of normal mapping some obstacles. But since you're usually driving quickly over them, you may never even notice.

:smashin:
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
If the 360 version looks better than this, then it deserves all the plaudits and should shift ALOT of machines :thumbsup:

May even have to invest myself :)
 

Rashman

Banned
Heres the 360 screenshot from igns review, lack of aa and af im afraid!! aliasing we have been trying to get rid of for the past 5 years!


and heres my pcs screenshot of cod2!...
 

Tigerblade

Well-known Member
All the shots I've posted look better than that. Even the PC version of COD 2 looks better....and this is from the actual review? So finalised equipment and software?

So my point is vaild, even before the 360 is released, a top end gaming rig is graphically superior.

Still not bad for a console tho ;)
 

Rashman

Banned
something else to add that i have heard is that apparently Call of Duty 2 is only 8 players online with xbox 360 live.....which you pay for.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
From Gamespots review...

Almost everything that makes the PC version one of the year's best shooters remains intact on the Xbox 360 version of the game, which looks just as good and actually runs smoother than all but the most beastly of gaming PCs. If not for the online multiplayer that's limited to eight players, the Xbox 360 version probably would have been hands-down better overall.
Yep the 8 player online is a disapointment but we do have PDZ for our 32 player online battles. Also i'm sure the AA will be there on the final version as the 360 can do it without a performance hit so it would be daft not to have it on.

Also don't forget that this is just a port of the PC game and a launch title to boot! Wait until the 2nd and 3rd wave of games hit in the first half of next year and we should start to see some really amazing stuff coming from the 360. :smashin:
 

Tejstar

Well-known Member
Wow - those are the first NFS piccies I've seen and they look gorgeous. If I actually enjoyed the NFS games I'd get it on the x360 asap. Imo, pc's are just not built for driving games. Much prefer playing them on my sofa with some mates!
 

Rashman

Banned
Tejstar said:
Wow - those are the first NFS piccies I've seen and they look gorgeous. If I actually enjoyed the NFS games I'd get it on the x360 asap. Imo, pc's are just not built for driving games. Much prefer playing them on my sofa with some mates!
Why not have your pc on your TV, i have a shuttle pc linked to my 32"samsung lcdtv in my living room, wireless mouse/keyboard/gamepads! Everything and more can be done on a pc in the living room than the 360 ever will.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Rashman said:
Why not have your pc on your TV, i have a shuttle pc linked to my 32"samsung lcdtv in my living room, wireless mouse/keyboard/gamepads! Everything and more can be done on a pc in the living room than the 360 ever will.
LOL i'm sure the wife would love me sat there reading this forum on the TV on an evening :D .

I have mine hooked up to a monitor and a Projector but it's too crap to play todays games and I can't afford to upgrade it.
 

Similar threads

Trending threads

Latest news

Google Home update leaves smart speakers dumb
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
LG Display posts Q3 losses of $377 million
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
Netflix reveals how viewing metrics determines a show's success
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
Discovery launches dplay AVOD service in UK and Ireland
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published
Cyrus announces ONE Cast Smart Audio System
  • By Andy Bassett
  • Published

Latest threads

Top Bottom