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Paradigm Servo 15 - Advice Please...

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by chips, Jul 23, 2002.

  1. chips

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    Phoned RS Guildford today re a second PS-1000, have had one for a month and whilst a bit boomy, not a bad sub for £150 so decided to try two in the hope that 2 subs at a lower level would be less boomy.

    Anyway, RS said no stock on PS-1000. I asked jokingly if they had a Servo 15. "Yes we do, only one, was on order for a customer, when it came in he found it would not fit in his room and returned it. You can have it for £380".

    So I now have a Servo 15 and a PS-1000. My dilemma is do I use both or just the servo? My gut feeling is that I would be better just using the Servo.

    What do you think?

    I did ask if there might be any more around. Was told that there was one in RS demo room in Reading but no more that he was aware of. Mine was found in RS main warehouse and sent to Guildford as they had an outstanding order.
     
  2. garylloyd

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    Thanks for that!!
    I am now off to phone reading.
    Cheers
    Gary
     
  3. chips

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    Any luck Gary?

    I got the impression that the guy I spoke to had seen it recently.
     
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    Chips.
    Judging by the amount of good folks on these forums who
    are after a Servo 15, i'd never give your address out!!!!..:)

    Especially, when you paid £380 for it.....

    Anyone tried Bromley RS........?
    I'm not after one, just that it's not far from me.........

    Adzman
     
  5. Matt F

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    Before everyone starts phoning Reading, apparently they "blew up" the one they had in their demo room! I don't know what this says about the Servo 15's protection circuits.

    Matt.
     
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    Well It seems that my gut feeling was correct, Servo on it's own has no boom whatsoever. Connect PS-1000 and the boom returns.

    Interesting point is that the servo needs to be set at 83db on SPL meter with satellites at 75db to get a subjectively balanced sound, whereas PS-1000 was set at 79db to get balanced sound.

    I assume that this is due to a flatter response.

    With both subs connected the PS-1000 needs to be turned down so low to negate the boom that it is almost completely inaudible.

    Watched Blackhawk Down and the effects produced by the servo are breathtaking. Nic is right this is a seriously impressive sub.

    Can't imagine what one of Uncle Eric's Velodynes would sound like!!
     
  7. chips

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    I was told that servo's have been known to blow a fuse. Could it be as simple as that?

    High power demo at loony levels, fuse blows to protect sub.

    May still be worth investigating.
     
  8. Matt F

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    Alright - don't rub it in - getting a brand new one for £380 was bad enough without you reminding us how great the sub is.

    Anyway, it sounds like you won't be selling it.

    As for the Reading one - they said the whole board was knackered/melted/blown up etc - Christ knows what they did to it.

    Matt.
     
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    Probably lent it to Nic Rhodes :D
     
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    Ooops, sorry Matt, just a bit over excited.
     
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    Even Nic admits that he's chickened out before the Servo ran out of steam.

    Chips - I hate you :mad:

    Cheers,
    Liam
     
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    Yes agreed, when i ran my pair up to 100 db at 20hz the pictures on the wooden partition that runs along side the stair banisters came off!!!!
    Have no desire whatsoever to know what they might do.

    Steve
     
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    I don't believe it - another greedy bu**er with 2 Servo 15s! No wonder there weren't enough to go around.

    Isn't it about time each of you became a bit less "me, me, me" and made one of your Servos available to the genuine needy HC enthusiasts who grace this forum? :blush:

    Just think of the happy smiling faces of the two lucky buyers of your Servos. We could make it fair and put names in hats - even pay a bit over the top and give the extra to "charidy".

    Second thoughts - Nic would probably disguise himself, buy one of Steve's and end up with THREE. :D

    Matt.
     
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    you are also not getting distortion with the servo so can up the volume and get clear sound:)
     
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    Probably not mucch I would say.I read somewhere that all these paradigiam units are seconds sent over by them for Richer sounds to sell. with the amout of blown up paragimigms I've been reading about in lots of forums i believe it.
    I feel a little stuck now.

    I know the Velodynese are best but cant afford the rolls royce prices. what do I do?

    Dont fancy picking up a screwdriver for a diy job either. in any case 250 watts dont really compare to 400 watts on the pararidigm and zillion watss on the Velydons.

    think I'll get a rel :D
     
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    You might want to speak to Uncle Eric - he's selling a couple of Q100E's for a reasonable price.

    Cheers,
    Liam
     
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    Thanks Liam :cool: Sorry Chip but they are sold. I had to make room for Godzilla :D
     
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    I wouldn't think that the nurse would let you near a screwdriver.
     
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    He´s got to have some fun. Electric drill anyone?:D
     
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    Meter calibration issue at low freq, especially if you are using a RS meter

    :blush:

    Why can't I have a third?:devil:
     
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    Matt is correct the guys at Reading killed it.
    So are you getting back if it is fixed? Dunno mate.Thanks for you help.How about a PS1000? a killer sub!Good bye.
    Oh the torture of dealing with RS.
    Thanks for the tip off anyway.
    Gary
     
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    How much bigger than the PS-1000 is it? o_0
     
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    If it makes you feel any better, I was told by RS a few years ago(can't verify it myself of course) that the Paradigm units were obtained on a special deal, to clear surplus factory stock and production overruns back in Canada/USA.

    Though I suppose he's hardly going to admit if they were seconds, it would make sense though (the overruns and factory clearance I mean) - I doubt they'd be able to get hold of enough seconds to make it worthwhile for RS to get involved, unless Paradigm's production methods and quality control really stink - and there's really no evidence of that as far as I am aware.

    Clearing stock this way isn't that uncommon - you get cash in the bank for stock which is just sat there costing you money, which means you can keep production ticking along as usual, and it doesn't upset your dealers by flooding the market with cheap product. RS do this sort of deal all the time (often it seems with manufcaturers who aren't as bothered abot upsetting dealers as Paradigm are). RS also told me that as part of the deal, Paradigm wouldn't allow RS to advertise the prices online for the same reason.
     

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