Papillon Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Saw this a while ago and I'd agree with that score. I've never seen the original and have little desire to, but I found this to be serviceable but forgettable. Hunnam & Malek were fine though.
       
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      How have you never seen the original Papillon :eek:
       
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      Are you being treated for this condition :laugh:
       
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      Just not particularly interested.

      There used to be a thread "classic films you haven't seen" or something like that but I can't seem to find it? If anyone else can I'll add this to that list :)
       
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      The original is a very good movie.

      I don't feel the need to watch this version.
       
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      This one?

      Answered - What classic films have you not seen?
       
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      I thought it was ok. I liked how minging everything is in the prison in the new one and I thought everyone did a decent enough job in their roles, but at the end of the day I still prefer the old Steve McQueen flick.
      The only thing it improved on, for me, was that it looked like you'd get dysentery if you spent more than 5 minutes there. Other than that I found it's a(nother) case of why even bother?
       
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      Thanks for the Review Cas. The original I remember as stunning, & your review has definitely not instilled me with any desire to watch this new version!
       
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      Ah I see you were but just forgot to take your medication:laugh:

      I bet you wish you were on the ones Im on:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

      Or not.
       
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      I like the not so subtle disdain, Cas.
      Charlie Hunnam is a weird fish and one I avoid in films anyway.
      This is permanently shelved next to various other remakes that I wouldn't touch. I can't imagine it'll ever cause the sort of debate over whether Lenny Cohen's Hallelujah or Jeff Buckley's is better - yes it's music but it felt seasonally apt.
       
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      Isn't it generally acknowledged that the original novel is largely fictional?

      Papillon (book) - Wikipedia

      I must confess I haven't seen the 1973 film, either, although I actually have read the book. I think we can safely assume this new adaptation will not be entirely faithful to the novel - they'll certainly skip the bit where the hero has sex with a native girl who is about 13 years old, and probably take out the bestiality references too....
       
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      OK, give you my two cents on his remake.

      Was there a need for it? Not really but made for the new generation I presume.
      Can it touch the McQueen/Hoffman classic? Not on my nelly.
      Did I enjoy this film? Yes I did, decent acting and script but lacked soul.
      Would I watch it again? Eh no, but I would watch the original again.
      Rami and Charlie are not in the same league as McQueen & Hoffman, not many would be today.
      They gave it a good shot and kudos to that and fans like me who were blown away by the original and still are decades later can't help but relate to that.

      I am going to admit when I watched the original as a young lad, it scared the Jesus out of me, I could not help think what I would do in that position in life had put me there.
      That is the type of film that left a mark on me, it is that powerful maan.
      Thank you.
      Peace :)
       
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      Just why.

      Why would anyone remake when the original is such quality.
       
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      Because not everyone has seen the original, and the studio might be able to make money out of adapting the book (just like the original did).

      Why do you think movies get made?
       
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      Clearly just for money or this film would never have been made, oh just look how much the original made compared with budget. It was doomed from concept. The money part well that clearly backfired judging by figures.

      The original hit all the marks and the original time it was film suited the story with production methods.

      Yes some remakes clearly work but a simple sheet of A4 with with plus and minus points should have killed this project with funds going to something else.

      For those people who haven't seen the original at least they may possibly know now of the original and take the time to watch it so there is the plus point.
       
    18. lucasisking

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      The original made money, because it had massive star power and wasn't competing with Aquaman, Bohemian Rhapsody, Netflix and video games. It wasn't a universally praised critical hit though:

      Papillon (1973 film) - Wikipedia

      Doesn't sound 'untouchable' to me.

      The new one was a gamble that didn't pay off (didn't even recover its budget), but in principle I can't see anything wrong with attempting to repackage a story for a modern audience. The McQueen one is 45 years old, pretty ancient (like me). And it worked with A Star Is Born.

      All that said, the new one was quite forgettable I thought. Therefore no harm done.
       
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      Like I said waste of time and money and you are actually putting forward further reasons why it shouldn't of been made.

      Have you seen the films that came out in 1973, it couldn't be a worst year to release a film against competition in the cinema!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Saying it's against other films and neflix/video games is neither here or there. It is akin to saying if it was the only film on at the cinemas and all computer consoles and TV's broke one day the idea paid off.

      The original Pappilion is one of those films which has grown over the years as a classic. It has a high rotten tomatoes rating.

      You could argue this new version will grow into cult status like the original but lets be frank it won't.

      As many actors, directors and reviewers have said of recent there is far too much recycling and not enough chances taken on totally new ideas and projects.

      No harm done, well that is your opinion but it is yet another film in a long line of efforts in the last decade or so which have failed. Maybe take a look at the top films in 1973 and suddenly you realise we could do with a change of direction on how/why/which film projects are taken up.

      Recycling a film for modern audience is just a line from the big studios to give some kind of defence in this laziness.
       

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