Had a similar experience with a certain Sky message board. All started well, then within a matter of months the only obsession was collecting the various frequencies etc. to enable reception of every last un-worthy broadcaster on the planet. Starsky and Hutch in German wow! Why? To show there mates how they could receive 775 channels from the same dish. Please whatever you read on here it is now more or less acurate than any Mag. and no more or less trustworthy than any dealer. Have faith in one thing alone..... YOUR OWN EARS. Rant over...... now shout back!