panny pwd7 vga connection query ?

av wayney

Standard Member
i want to connect my dvd player to my pwd7 plasma via the vga input.
the dvd player is an arcam dv88 (non progressive model but the pwd7 does this anyhow).

question1. am i right in saying the pwd7 vga input only accepts rgb and not component y Pb Pr, like the series 8 panels do.

the dv88 has the option to output hq video in two settings:
1.rgb for the scart and the 3 phono's (y Pb Pr)
2.component for the scart or the 3 phono's (y Pb Pr).

this brings me to question 2...if i am correct in Q1 but set the dvd player to output component and use a 3 phono to vga cable to connect to the plasma will it simply accept it as rgb anyhow.

question 3.the dvd players manual says that if i select rgb output and use the 3 phono's i need to use a composite as a sync signal,what does this mean and what would happen if i dident ??

i hope this is not to long winded but i wanted to explain it clearly :)
ok over to you guys in the know

cheers..wayney
 

MAW

Banned
It is possible to do scart to RGB and sync on composite for the PW7 via VGA, it's a long winded way though, and it will be cheaper to just go and buy a BNC component card. If you must pursue RGBsC it's specialist lead time, out with the soldering iron.
 

hornydragon

Well-known Member
buy a component input board (or an extra 15 pin D-sub card) built in 15 pin wont accept Y PbPr but an additional one will, or go for a a 15pin to 4 RCA lead and use RGBcvS but this can be dodgy as the sync level on composite isnt up to much and really you need a dedicated sync output
 

av wayney

Standard Member
thanks for the replys so far guys,can you help a little fella out some more...

ok so i am correct in saying the pwd7 vga input only accepts rgb thats good enough
for me as i have only experienced the dvd player through a scart to scart connection so far because i only have a scart board and the built in vga and the picture to my eyes is very good.

the reason i am enquiering about the vga input is i want to utilise it as it is already there and my scart board is used up already by my dvd recorder (dmreh50).

i know i could buy a scart splitter or a scart/component board but want to keep costs down.as i have no composite input on my plasma is it possible to buy an rgb scart to vga cable and be done with it (dvd manual says i dont need a sync signal if it is set to rgb output and its scart connection is used)

if this can be done anybody know where to get such a cable?
is this the same as the lead you mention hornydragon
 

hornydragon

Well-known Member
there are various leads, JS technology is a Box but ideal, QED do the Q-Sync lead and Keene do one JS box is £120+ leads, QED is £70 ish keene is £60 ish and a component board is £70 ish so a component board wont really cost you more and for my money will deliver better results componet board and cable is going to be £90 ish depending on length and quality Lektropacks would make you a lead but thats going to be £50+ and you are still syncing on composite which isnt ideal the JS box is a sync stripper and actively (powered) removes the sync signal from the composite video line and boosts the voltage hence why its A very very good and B expensive
 

MAW

Banned
The bit about not need ing a sync signal might mean it's sync on Green. Then the std 3 phono to 15pin leads will work. I'd contact Arcam and ask them if your player does sync on composite or sync on green.
 

hornydragon

Well-known Member
MAW i think there is some confusion over whether to use RGBcvS from scart or RGsB from the component output ideally using RGB+Sync with a dedicatged sync from the Video output would be the most cost effective quality way to do this but i dont think the DV88 willl do this but check with Arcam
 

av wayney

Standard Member
hornydragon...thanks for replying with the possible scart lead options

maw...ref wether the arcam dv88 outputs a sync signal on composit or green i quote the following direct from the manual

"component
the video output on both the component video (3 phonos) and scart is Y Pb Pr component video

rgb scart
the video output on both the component video (3 phonos) and scart is rgb. note that if you are using rgb output via phono connectors,you will also need to use the composit as a sync signal."

so composit sync it is which rules out using the phonos for connection as i have no composit input on my pwd7.

i researched into hornydragons scart to vga lead reccomendations and they seem to be a viable solution if a bit pricey but i'm sure i saw such lead on an ebay shop which had fancy italic writing in its description but i cant find it again for the life of me...anybody know which ebay shop this could be??

i have just had a brainwaive but i dont know if it is a good one but here goes.
could i connect component cables and one for the composit from the dvd phono output...to...a four phono in with scart out adapter...then simply connect the scart to vga lead between that and my plasma thus enabling dvd phono connection to be used with the composit sync traveling through the adapter.

is this a feasable option
 

MAW

Banned
How about just scart to 4 phone adapter from scart, and then to RGB and composite sync via VGA? But as Horny syas, it's a bit flaky, or used to be anyway. Having said that, the other day I was setting up a PHD8 and YUV output was switched off, so we connected the Y (green) to composite, and got a stable, full colour picture via VGA with composite video! Was only expecting monochrome! It was awful, like a diamond pattern jumper.... but still, it was there and stable, so maybe things have improved.
 

hornydragon

Well-known Member
not sure if it is possible but if the DV88 has composite output (yellow phono you could buy a 4 phono to 15 pin cable cheap enough on fleabay and give it a go (can also use scart block adapter to do this but best PQ will be from buying a component card secondhand off the forum should be £60 ish........... so consider this
 

av wayney

Standard Member
hornydragon...yes the dv88 does have a composit phono output (grouped together with the three component phono outputs) so i could try one of those leads.

thanks for all your help with my questions maw hornydragon and sjameson, gentlemen...i salute you
 

madshi

Active Member
MAW said:
It is possible to do scart to RGB and sync on composite for the PW7 via VGA, it's a long winded way though, and it will be cheaper to just go and buy a BNC component card. If you must pursue RGBsC it's specialist lead time, out with the soldering iron.
Ok, that way you have 4 signals (RGB + S), but VGA wants 5, doesn't it? How can you connect that? Thanks!
 
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