Having finally got to see these two side by side I have to say that although I thought the Panny was going to be the one for me it didn't float my boat at all. The Panny was showing Shrek and the Pioneer some action yarn both via DVD. The Pioneer was the HDE model, the Panny also had the tuner connected. Viewing the Panny from about 10' away - which would be our viewing distance at home - all the individual pixels (am I right in assuming that is the right term for the indvidual light emitting dots that make up the complete picture? ) were visible and spoiled the overrall effect for me completely. The Pioneer's pixels were far smaller and therefore there were far more of them making up the whole picture (is this what higher resolution means? ). So in conclusion, having kind of wanted to like the Panny more (I've had lots of Panasonic products in the past which I have always been more than happy with) allied to the fact that to these eyes is nicer cosmetically, cheaper compared to the the MXE, and easier to find to demo, I feel a little flat. JimmyMc. has recommended looking at the Hitachi which to his eyes blows the Pio/Panny away so my next stop is Sevenoaks' main branch to demo all three head to head.