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Panny 6 or Hitachi 42PD3000

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by silverx, Sep 22, 2003.

  1. silverx

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    Hi all!
    Been a lurker here for a little while - I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to the wonderful world of plasma, so apologies in advance if this has been done.

    I have cut my choice down to either the panasonic 42PW6B or the hitachi 42PD3000 both are in budget. What confuses me is that the Panny 6 is often quoted as the better screen, but the hitachi has better screen resolution and is HD TV ready etc. and is a bit cheaper!

    Is there any consensus as to which has the best picture? Does the screen resolution (higher for the hitachi) make any difference?
    Basically if the panny is better i would pay a little extra for it.

    I have seen them both badly set up in Currys (the hitachi was better) and the panasonic set up properly in a specialist shop looked great, but I havent been able to see the hitachi in the right setting!

    I will be using sky+ and will eventually upgrade my arcam-diva dvd to the progressive scan.

    Thanks for any advice you can offer.
     
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    OK a personal view.

    They are very different screens. They are both HDTV capable, though as you say the panny resolution doesn't look great. You can take libeties with the PD3000 signal, but likewise it doesn't reward you so highly for getting it right. Which one is best for you depends not just on a demo in a decent shop, but what you plan on connecting. If you've got a good progressive scan DVD player, and can also budjet another £150 for gismos, ie JS RGB-VGA box for sky/cable/freeview, or have an AV amp that can switch YUV, then almost certainly go for the panny. If what you want is a sexy looking big tv with minimal hassle, then it's the PD3000, and it seems John Lewis is the shop of choice for several good reasons.
    The panasonic is easier to integrate into your home cinema system, discrete codes are available for universal remotes, can be used with an external scaler, DVI available etc. Guess which I'd buy?

    edit: If your amp does YUV switching it's a no-brainer for you, get a rgb-YUV converter for sky, and connect YUV to the 15 pin vga, a good dealer will help you there.
     
  3. silverx

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    Thanks for your reply!
    My AV amp doesnt have switching so I plan to use composite from the dvd, and RGB scart from sky+.
    An important consideration is it must function as a 'telly' from the wife and kids, ie they can switch it on without the need to use the amp. So its a tricky choice!
     
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    you can stiil use yuv from the arcan via the 15 pin port, there are cables from £50 to do this, it'd be a crime to use composite! RGB scart for TV will be good, it's thought the scart picture is just a little 'soft' but then sky ain't perfect either!
     
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    Im sure that the Hitachi 42PD3000 does not accept HD inputs (ie 1080i or 720p) and is limited to SD inputs. The Hitachi 42PMA400E panel, however, does.
     
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    That's correct - the 400E is Hi Def ready. The 3000 is not.
    The 400E also has split screen modes and is cheaper as well. All you lose is the tuner...
     
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    If you feed the 42PD3000 a hi-def source on the VGA connector it will display it. Anyone know of any component to VGA converters that will accept a hi definition source?

    RickB
     
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    silverx

    Both of the screens you are discussing have strong supporters. I have the 42PD3000 and am very happy with it. It connects like a TV having three scart sockets (2 RGB) so you can simply connect a sky+ and a DVD player and get excellent pictures. Things like automatic widescreen switching etc make it easy for non techies to use (male or female). The package includes everything (speakers, desk stand etc) bar a wall bracket.

    The increased resolution is achieved by a system called ALIS whose pros and cons are discussed regularly here. Which system you prefer is subjective. I demoed both and chose accordingly. Dealers such as Nexnix have good demonstration facilities again search this board for reccomendations.

    The panasonic is a screen rather than a complete TV and can have various input boards fitted. It has excellent picture if set up well but unless you know what you are doing should be bought from a good dealer who can sell/advise you on how to connect it and set it up. The total bill may be quite a bit more when you cost in the extra bits needed.
     
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    banane,

    Excellent - thanks for the information !!!

    So it is possible to feed the 42PD3000 a hi definition signal !!

    Rickb
     
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    Put the P6 and the Hitachi side by side fed the same source via RGB or YUV. spend some time calibrating them in the shop and I have no doubt you will select the Panasonic.

    Neil.
     
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    Thanks all for the info, planning to check them both, as neil suggests, later today...
     
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    Rick, before jumping with excitement, your VGA port probably requires at least 31KHZ horizontal frequency, YUV most likely 15.625. Check your manual, it might work, I don't know.
     
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    I had an extensive demo of both the Hitachi and Panny 6 and i am receiving delivery tomorrow of the Hitachi from JL :smashin:
     
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    Pleaseeeeeeeeeee don't use composite from the DVD!! That would be like putting a Ford Fiesta engine into a Ferrari - doesn't the Hitachi have *two* RGB inputs? I'm sure I read that it did, in which case problem solved.

    If not, I'd spend £80 on a Toshiba DVD player that has a component output, the Hitachi can take that too, I believe...
     
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    Have to agree with the sentiment here not to use a composite input from your DVD player. If you are going to use composite - there isn't much point in paying for either the Panny6 or Hitachi - may as well get a much cheaper screen since the picture will probably end up no worse.

    The Hitachi has 2 RGB scart connectors plus an additional composite/S-video connector (not including the component input, VGA input and front S-Video inputs).

    Purely from the aspect your approaching this (you want a TV rather than a monitor) the Hitachi wins purely because of its connectivity. If the connectivity isnt the issue then the Panny is a nice screen.

    Still - try and get a side by side demo of both screens if possible - I know plenty of people who preferred the Panny and plenty of people who preferred the Hitachi. I chose the Hitachi after a lengthy selection process (for me it ended up being between the HD Pioneer and the Hitachi - the Hitachi won because the difference in picture quality wasn't enough to justify the extra cash), a friend of mine chose the Panny - although for some reason he now prefers my Hitachi !!

    I know one guy who will die to defend his Panny over anything else including the Pioneers so it all goes to show its what you prefer rather than what other people say !!

    RickB
     
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    Oops typo above! :) - I intend to use component from dvd to panel, and rgb from sky+). I agree composite would not be a good idea...!
     
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    On that basis, the benefit from progressive scan is a moot point with the Hitachi, and trouble has been reported occasionally, whereas a visible iprovement will be noticed with the panny. Remember also that the government have sworn to make the tuner redundant in the lifespan of the screen.
     
  19. NeilMcRae

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    I thought that had more to do with you being a skint flint though ? :laugh:

    Regards,
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    Fuzzybee,
    What were your reasons for choosing the Hitachi over the Panny 6?
     
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    Well I have demoed them side by side panny looked better to my eyes1 The hitachi was set up quite so well by the shop I suspect, but even so I was impressed that you seem to get a better picture for your money (on RGB) with the panny.

    Just got decide if the price difference is worth it...!
     
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    My main reason was cosmetic, the Hitachi just looks much sexier than the panny or any other plasma for that matter.
    I judge something with my eyes and no one elses opinion matters to me(besides the missus) from the demo i had they were both stunning in the picture department.
    The missus also had her say and the free warranty and price at JL is something that was one of the swinging factors.
    I received my Hitachi today, it's now wallmounted with the mark 2 KEF eggs complementing it and all i can say is WOW !! :smashin:

    I wasn't but i am now ( a Skint Flint that is)
     
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    Glad you are happy mate, in my view the Sony floating glass job is the coolest plasma there is pity that the quality of the picture is so crap. :)

    Neil.
     

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