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Panny 5 - ISCAN problem

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by PVR, Nov 19, 2002.

  1. PVR

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    Following the problem from uncle eric with P5 and ISCAN, I just wondered whether to change my planned purchase of the P5 with the ISCAN to a Pioneer 433 with the ISCAN unit.

    Does anybody have that combination, and if so, any problems with PAL (see erics thread on this)?

    I am desperate to get the plasma sorted out, so any "comfort" on this progressive scan unit would be appreciated,

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    Can't answer that compatability question but why don't you get the 433 then keep saving till January and get the Key Digital native scaling card for the plasma ;)

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    Hi Gordon,

    Any news on the likely UK pricing or release date of the KD card? My birthday is at the end of Jan ;)

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    The card should be out in mid January. It's been shown/launched at CES in Vegas early Jan. I am considering doing the Bristol Show and launching it there in UK.

    You can email me for info on what pricing is going to be.

    convergentav@btinternet.com

    Thanks,

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    Does the Panasonic 50PHW30 take third party input cards?
    BTW, that Key Digital card sells for $1999 Blimey !!
     
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    RedRose,

    I think I saw some discussion of the Panasonic card slot over at avsforum. As far as I remember, Panasonic have decided NOT to open up the interface to 3rd party vendors (which seems crazy) so it means you will have to look to Panasonic for any upgrades.

    This is one reason why many people (in the US) are buying Pioneers - upgradability is important to them with uncertainty over the implementation of the HDCP copy protection mechanisms to be used by HDTV broadcasting companies/ set top box makers.

    Gordon - thanks - you have mail.

    PVR - apologies for hi-jacking your thread. Why not try either the Panny or Pioneer without a de-interlacer first - to see what you make of the inbuilt de-interlacers. Then consider which sources you are unhappy with (if any) and go with an external (or internal on the Pio) scaler/ de-interlacer if there are multiple sources you dislike, or (e.g.) a PAL progressive DVD player as appropriate.
     
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    Phil,

    No probs about the thread. :p

    I will just do that (buy without progressive scan), but have changed my mind about the unit and will now go for the Pioneer because of the upgradebility.

    Also, it doesn't hurt so much if you spread the expense ...
     
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    PVR,

    Good choice (IMHO). I have to say, I do notice jaggies etc on some R2 DVDs as a result of my Pioneer 656a not having any PS capability whatsoever and the 433 only having 2:3 pulldown (Purecinema). However, no one else ever seems to notice - they look at me as though I'm mad for suggesting the plasma image could be better! We watched the whole of LOTR Extended Version last night and I didn't notice a single jaggy/ artefact. Thats what I call a good film! :D

    Cheers
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    Phil,

    Got the LOTR extended edition as well, but refuse to watch it until the plasma is there.:rolleyes:

    I have even had a unit purpose build to house all the stuff now, with false backs, cable areas (separate high and low voltage), and power supplies.

    As soon as it is all in / configured, I will put some photos up.:D

    Just need to order it !

    Regards,

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    PVR,

    I'm impressed you've lasted so long without ordering already!

    Just make sure LOTR (EE) isn't the first thing you watch! 3hrs 20mins of 2.35:1 ratio image left me with noticeable after-images due to the black top/ bottom bars. It only took a few minutes of full-screen TV to erase the after-image, but still, you don't want to end up with 'sapper's problems :eek:

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    Phil,

    You got to be joking!;)

    I spend most of my time travelling, so no chance of sitting in front of the tv for 3 hrs 20 mins. This will be a "christmas" treat I think. Nothing like letting the turkey settle for 3 hrs 20, don't you think?

    I am very patient when it comes to buying something like this, spend a month or so looking around, reading up on it, seeing all the possible problems, finding out which supplier to use and which to avoid, future proof it etc.

    But when it arrives, it will be all the better :D

    As I said, the pictures will be forthcoming in due course ...

    Regards,

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