Right...... my patience is almost gone.... have a 42PV500PED on order and still have no positive news regarding even a likely shipping date. I was walking around Curry's today (to show my sprog what a PV500 looked like) and happenned to see the Sagem HD45... which I think was running a HD input .... the picture looked really stunning. Now considering I'm not looking to wall mount (new TV is going on an Ikea unit) ..... I do want it to be relatively slim .... which the Sagem is for a DLP set. My main viewing is, well, everything..... lots of SKY, lot's of DVD's and lots of XBOX. I have a positive experience of rear proj sets (last was a Sony 41 inch)... only draw back was the foot print (mine was 7 years old and therefore took up a huge amount of space). From a quick hunt round the web the Sagem is quoted is next day delivery by a nmber of traders.... so I would not have to go through the turmoil of waiting a month or more for delivery. What I'm looking for is an informed opinion regarding picture quality between the two sets. Anyone got any comments of the relative pro's & cons's ?