Well as promised heres my opinion on the panny tv that my father took delivery of yesterday. It was purchased incidently from empire direct, which imho was the cheapest on line retailer that I could find,besides they were doing buy now pay a year later,which I thought was great!!Service was also good. Well it arrived sealed with the new stand. we took it out of the box and connected the dvd & vcr combi to it and switched it on. Hey presto, it tuned itself. First it did the analogue channels then automatically the DVB channels.You can also input your own personal details and pin no for security reasons if you wish (should it get stolen in the future!!). The picture quality out of the box was stunning, but a few tweaks later it was excellent.Sound was good and clear,but a separate surround package would compliment this set very much. Overall an excellent tv and a very good looking one at that!!