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Panasonic TH42PHD6 vs Pioneer 434HDE

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by spindoctor, Sep 28, 2003.

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  1. Panasonic TH42PHD6

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  2. Pioneer 434HDE

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    70.5%
  1. spindoctor

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    Hi guys,

    First of all I just wanted to say I am a bit of a newbie to the world of plasmas but have been reading a lot of the opinions here before wading into the water.

    I've pretty much settled on these two bleeding edge screens based on the things I've heard about picture quality, wanting something with true high definition so that I can hook a computer up to it. Plus I would be opting for DVI inputs as well.

    So which is the screen for me? And could you be kind enough to give the pros and cons, so that its useful for me and the others in the same position?

    Also I was wondering whether the rectangular pixels will be a problem if I wanted to screen widescreen DVDs via my computer?

    Cheers
     
  2. andya

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    according to what ive heard from different people the pioneer is the clear winner
     
  3. Joe Fernand

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    spindoctor

    Your poll is a little premature!

    Panasonic Business Systems UK have still to actually deliver a TH-42PHD6BX and Pioneer UK have so far only shown Pre Production PDP-434HDE units.

    On paper (and from initial viewing of the Pre Production models) the Pioneer has the Panasonic beaten hands down as even if the picture quality on both is exemplary you get so much more for your money with the Pioneer Plasma TV over the Panasonic Plasma Display.

    Best regards

    Joe

    Cons - The Panasonic has FANS!
     
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    Those lovely rectangular pixels... with PC they do make a difference. Your picture of your desktop will be squashed on both screens, but WinDVD etc can compensate for this, and show you the correct aspect, or at any rate so nearly you are unlikely to complain. What you don't get is no scaling. With a good PC setup this may not be an issue, at least the plasma will do as it's told by the PC. The image will besharp even if squashed, look just like your xga desktop after bernard manning sat on your monitor... Currently there are no hi-def. 42" or thereabouts plasma displays with true 16:9 in any case. You have to go to a 50" for that. Your only choice in that smaller size range is to make the best of it with the xga panels, or get an LCD. Anyone posting about Hitachi is missing the point.....
     
  5. kaspj

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    Joe,

    When will you have the Pioneer HDE-434 prices on your website? (I note elsewhere that £3995 seems to be the going price for the panel only, plus around £300 for table-top stand and speaker bundle).

    Did Pioneer UK mention at the launch whether the table-top stand (and speakers) would be available in black at all? I note the table-top stand will be available in the U.S. in black, for one of the U.S. versions (see latest Widescreen Review).

    Thanks in advance.

    JP.
     
  6. steve36

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    Ok, who's voting without actually seeing either product ?!

    Steve.
     
  7. Joe Fernand

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    kaspj

    I was gong to say tomorrow night - but then I remembered I'm at Parkhead for Celtic vs. Lyon :)

    As you say I really ought to update the site so I'll get it sorted on Wednesday.

    No mention of Black Speakers or Table Top stand to mate with the new HDE TV's - I'm up to Issue 76, Sept 03 of WSR. Which issue carries the info on the HDE models in the US?

    I wonder if Pioneer US have an all Black 'Elite' range again - they usually do at a BIG price premium for 'Hand Picked' units with extra glossy finish and a longer warranty.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
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    I'm voting without seeing either product.

    I presume everybody else is too. But from the release details of both, the pioneer is more appealing to me.

    The poll asks for which plasma to get. And I voted pioneer, because that's what I want to get.
     
  9. joys_R_us

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    I have seen the Pio 434 though not side by side with the Pana. The attitude of Pana not offering DVI/HDMI as standard (not even as an official option for consumer panels) and their reluctance binging the 20PX version (HD) in Europe PISSES ME OFF.

    I saw the Pio, like the picture (I will be watching it in a well lit room, so even if I could see any black issues they won't be an issue in my environment), like the design, like the connections and am gonna buy one before Christmas.

    F... the Pana !
     
  10. andya

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    ive got mine ordered ,i like the style of it and the hdmi option and i havent even seen it running yet
     
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    Andy, I thought you were a Hitachi fan? You won't regret the 434, it's definitely going to be the best TV plasma on the market for a while, and the appearance is amazing.
     
  12. andya

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    i still rate the hitachi but i think the style and connections on the pioneer make it the winner and 1 billion colours.and no banding like the panasonic plus toatally flicker free
     
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    I agree, Panasonics attitude seem a little extreme. Just because europe does not have HD TV it appears not to want to sell consumer HD. Even if DVD looks better on it.

    Andya,
    Is it true the pioneer has no banding problems ?
    If so I may have to change my vote (without seeing either!) !
    I thought all plasmas had banding issues.

    Steve.
     
  14. andya

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    i mean it doesnt have the problem the panny 6 has with that quasi mode were the colours are less,the pio uses the full amount.dont know if ive spelt quasi right,
     
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    >>>>>>>>>> :clap: :clap: PANNY :clap: :clap: <<<<<<<<<<<

    I have 98% R1 NTSC DVD's which I prefere to watch in the dark.

    So for me there really is no competition!

    Best Regards,
    KBDVD.

    ps: I'm waiting for the 50" 6 series model.
     
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    Joe,

    I'm referring to the 'Coming Soon..' section on page 27 of the Oct 2003 issue which shows a picture of the Elite Pro-910HD which panel-wise looks the same (i.e. same wide bezel), but with a black stand (same type) and also full height side speakers.

    KBDVD

    I'm hoping the 'blacker blacks' on the new HDE will make this a non-issue (otherwise it'll be a HD Panny for me too). In the end it'll be down to which panel has the best picture quality pure and simple and the best potential 720p performance. I don't plan on buying another plasma in 2-3 years time.

    Regards,

    JP.
     
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    Did you order your Pio 434 from Cheap Electricals?

    If so let us know when it turns up, if it's as good as it looks and what Cheap Electricals were like. Price on their site is very interesting.

    Cheers

    Gaz
     
  18. andya

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    im getting mine from joe fernand.customer service is what im after and joe offers this
     
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    Well said andy. Much talk of 'cheapest on the net' round here, but like they say, s*** happens, and who ya gonna call?
     
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    If you buy on Barclaycard then you can have the best of both worlds. Buy from Joe for his undoubted customer service and knowledge and then have Barclaycard refund you the price difference between Joe's price and one of these 'box shifters' on the internet. You can claim upto 60days after your initial purchase.

    Its in their T&C somewhere on their website. I think they also throw in a free extra years warranty ... which is nice
     
  21. andya

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    you may find plasmas arent covered on that extra warranty.but thanks for the info i will get in touch with them tommorow
     
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    andya ...I fully agree with you about Joe's customer service and being able to talk to your dealer with confidence!

    After 3 yrs of waiting, choosing & changing my mind, I have also pre-ordered a new pio from Joe without seeing one in action...

    the point being...I have spoken to probably most (if not all) of the large plasma retailers out there, plus a few specialist shops. None of them give me the confidence when discussing plasma technology, they all just seem ill-equiped regarding the technology & its' ads. & disads. I don't claim to know anything either....but that is the point...I wanted to be able to buy from someone who does know!

    ...and out of everyone I spoke to (throughout Essex & some larger stores in London), Joe's knowledge & advice has been top drawer....so he gets my hard earnt cash!

    Anyway, enough of me harping on...I can't wait for my new toy...going to try and get a decent DVD player now!
     
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    it annoys me to always getting less for are money
     
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    I bought my plasma from Joe too....and I'll probably buy my next one from him as well.

    Gordon
     
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    Gordon,

    just out of interest, what do you have? And what would you like to have had?

    Mike
     
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    ...and not forgetting the 2 iLink , and an extra component input on the front.

    Steve
     
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    Don't forget that the 'old' US media box was also better specified, so no real surprise... Europe seems to come a poor second to the US/Far East in this respect... Just look at HDTV..!

    At least its got one HDMI input..! I don't think it will be much of a disadvantage, (new AVR's will almost certainly feature up-conversion and HDMI switching), but I just hope they haven't short changed us on the new electronics..!
     
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    mikey,
    Gordon has an MXE, it's been mentioned in other posts. I suspect he uses it with an external scalar.

    Steve.
     
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    So, how much did you guys pay for your screen with joe?
     

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