Panasonic TH-50PH9UK Help!!! Europe Vs US

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  1. ptsiakk

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    Hello Everybody
    I have a Panasonic TH-50PH9UK; The problem is that am moving to Greece[Europe] next month and I don't know if this TV will be functioning properly over there. IF not can you please tell me which model will be right for me? (PAL and 110/220V preferably).
     
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    the Panasonic TH-50PH9UK will work fine in Greece, because the commercial Panasonic panels sold in the USA can handle a PAL signal. the problem is that Greece is 220V and the PH9UK is 110V only. therefore you will need a large 220/110V transformer to handle the power supply. probably cheaper to buy and find in Greece.

    good luck!


     
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    I would also budget for a good surge protector/filter

    My parents had a holiday home there, and unless the reliability of the electrical supply has improved a lot over the last few years, it probably won't be on long enough to find out :eek:

    Bob
     
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    Oh dear, that doesn't sound too good !

    The PH9 sold in North America is the same one which is made for Europe & the UK.

    The only difference must be the PSU to accommodate the 120 volts.

    All that would be required is a transformer for European 220v :D
     
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    They use a universal PSU so you can plug it straight into 220v, so apart from some slight changes in the Menu they are exactly the same. :smashin:
     
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    Are you sure about this :confused:

    In the manual for the TH-**P9UK (one sold across the Atlantic) it says 120 volts 50/60Hz. Doesn't say anything about it being 120 -230 volts.

    Likewise for the ones sold over here it says 220 - 240 volts :confused:

    Or are Panasonic just not specifically saying in the manual that it contains a universal PSU ?
     
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    Yeah sure, I have plugged 110v into my UK one and it works no problem and someone I know plugged 220c into his US 9.

    The part numbers for the PSU are the same too.
     
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    Kind of makes me wonder if it's worth trying to buy tvs from the US, to use in the UK....seeing as some prices I've read recently seem massively cheaper in the US...like the Panasonic PZ700 and PZ750...someone on the US AVSforums was talking of a 50-97% price difference between there and here!:eek:

    ...but that's a different topic...
     
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    97% ?? I doubt it.
     
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    Considering it's $2 to the £1 stuff currently bought in the US is cheaper at that exchange rate.

    Though with shipping & customs (not sure how much these may amount to) price differences could be negligible ?

    Mmmmm...... price comparison site :

    http://www.compare123.com/Electronics/Consumer/TV/Plasma/42_inch/SP9258624.html
     
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    This comes up again and again, admittedly the price looks attractive. But their $1599 is without tax of any kind, it says so clearly. You get hit with nearly 50% tax taken all in when it's imported into the EC, and you can buy one here for £1250 currently, so how are our pants being pulled down? I think we are paying £50-£100 more than the yanks. This covers the vastly superior consumer rights we enjoy here compared to yank land. You never get something for nothing, and warranties cost money. In the EC they are not an option, they are obligatory. We the retailer are iable for the thing for up to 7 years in law, are we not entitled to cover ourselves?
     
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    7 years?
    I presume you're referring to the Sale Of Goods Act?
    It's only 6, except Scotland where it's 5 years.
    I disagree with your percentage tax take.
    Currently we're enjoying a low strength dollar which is skewing things over the normal $1.50/£1 rate, but even so, their sales tax (assuming it's bought in-State) is 6-8% on average.
    Import duties are around 10% for TVs (less if it's a display), so that would work out to £1336 on a £1K product.
    Obviously there's VAT on the shipping cost as well included in that - based on UPS shipping a 50" for $486 ish on a 3-5 day service.
    All in, it's nearer the £1600 mark, but that's a single panel and not a much cheaper 6 week boat trip.
    We are (and always have been, pretty much) bent over and asked to take one for the country by HM Gov - more so with the current shower of.......[end spleen venting].
     
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    I don't wish to start an argument over this, but you have misread things, and don't understand the UK import situation, and are missing a tax out. The US price in that link specifically says NO SALES TAX. In UK, you have duty, 10%, HDMI TV levy, 14%, and VAT is charged on the aggregate of that. But we are in full agreement over HM govt, and their inflation figures, taxation regime etc. My DW has the misfortune to work for them, for far too many hours. They would spit on her grave if she died on the job.
     
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    You forgot VAT on the actual screen, that's another £175
     
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    Sorry MAW, didn't mean to make that read like I was including the local State tax as well - that was a separate remark altogether.
     
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    No, I didn't, but I did forget to include the HDMI tax - slipped my mind or was thinking computer monitors, only, affected with DVI.

    TV - £1000 + 10% = £1100
    Shipping - £250 x 17.5% = £43.75 (just the VAT portion, since you've already paid the £250)
    Total = £1100 + 17.5% + £43.75 = £1336.25
    That's just the TV, don't forget you paid shipping already - £1586.25


    The correct maths should be
    (((£1000 + 14%) + 10%)) + 17.5%))) + £43.75
    Grand total = £1517.20
    Plus shipping - £1767.20



    So, the moral of the story is........anyone planning on buying a PZ750, have it declared at a lot less than it's actual value, if you conscience will let you sleep at night that Gordon and Tony will have to make do with one less bottle of expensive whiskey!
    God bless the b'st'rds. :devil:
     

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