Panasonic TH-42/50PZ70 Owners Thread - Part 1

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  1. EViS

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    Update Feb 3rd 2008: An FAQ has been suggested, linking to key information in this thread. It's a work in progress so here we go for starters;

    Frequently Asked Questions

    Q1. Can anyone advise on what picture settings I should use?
    A1. Here you go:...

    Q2. Does the 42/50PZ70 accept and display 1080p/24 signals correctly?
    A2. Yes, you're right, but...

    Q3. Is it possible to buy a Panasonic cabinet for the 42/50PZ70?
    A3. Despite the misleading way this TV is listed...

    Q4. How do I check how many hours I have been using my screen for?
    A4. Bud just press and hold -/v on the...

    Q5. Are there any objective online reviews of the 42/50PZ70?
    A5. HDTVTest further comment on this in...

    Q6. Is there a way to adjust how much of the image is cropped when using Overscan?
    A6. Okay...So I have some great news...

    Q7. What are the dimensions of the 42PZ70 manufacturer's box?
    A7. 1500x390...

    Q8. What are the dimensions of the 50PZ70 manufacturer's box?
    A8. Ok, few dimensions which may help...

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    This thread has been created for the discussion of owners of this TV & a summarised accumulation of all specs & discussion from this thread started by kmpowell.

    Panasonic TH-42PZ70 & TH-50PZ70 Specifications

    • Panasonic MANUAL

    The Panasonic PZ70 is not necessarily a cut down PZ700 panel. Although it does not have the better sound package and only has 2 HDMI inputs, it does however have a side SD Card slot, side connectivity inputs/outputs, and a higher contrast ratio of 10,000:1 (see spec below). The PZ700 is being replaced with a PZ750.

    • G10 1080P Full-HD Panel
    • 1,920 x 1,080 Pixels
    • 68.7 Billion Colours
    • 10,000:1 Contrast
    • DVB Digital Tuner
    • Fastext
    • V-Real 2 Processor & Driver
    • Wobbling Screensaver
    • 1:1 Pixel Mapping (Overscan On/Off)
    • Auto/16:9/14:9/4:3/Zoom1/Zoom2/Zoom3 Aspect Ratios
    • 10W Speakers x 2 (side)
    • SD Memory Card Slot x 1 (side)

    Video Connectivity

    • HDMI Video/Audio Input v1.2 x 2 (rear)
    • Component Video/Audio Input x 1 (rear)
    • PC D-Sub Video Input x 1 (rear)
    • RGB Scart Video Input x 2 (rear)
    • Composite Video Input x 1 (side)
    • S-Video Input x 1 (side)

    Audio Connectivity

    • RCA Phono Audio Input x 1 (side)
    • RCA Phono Audio Input x 1 (rear)
    • Headphone Audio Output x 1 (side)

    Dimensions ( W × H × D ) - Weight

    The following dimensions are for the TV only - without the supplied stand.

    • 42PZ70 - 1,134 mm × 641 mm × 116 mm - 35.0 kg
    • 50PZ70 - 1,323 mm × 754 mm × 99.5 mm - 43.0 kg

    PZ70B & PZ70E Overscan Options

    There is a believed difference in the overscan (1:1 pixel mapping) options between the UK ‘B' panel and the EU ‘E' panel. These differences have been outlined within the EU & UK Panasonic manuals and provided by ICM76.

    PZ70B Manual States:
    Selects the screen area displaying the image (Off / On)
    On : Enlarged the image to hide the edge of the image.
    Off : Displayed the image in the original size.
    • Set to “On” if noise is generated on the edge of the screen.
    • This function is available when aspect is set to Auto or 16:9.
    • This function can be memorized for SD (Standard definition) and HD (High definition) signals separately.

    PZ70E Manual States:
    Selects the screen area displaying the image (Off / On)
    On : Enlarged the image to hide the edge of the image.
    Off : Displayed the image in the original size.
    • Set to “On” if noise is generated on the edge of the screen.
    • This function is available when aspect is set to Auto or 16:9.
    • 1080i or 1080p signal only

    1080p24 Myth

    Panasonic is not stating whether the PZ70 is a true 24fps panel or one that converts a 24fps signal to 50hz or 60hz. It seems Panasonic is not giving a direct answer to this feature but using the fact it displays a 1080p24 input with little/no judder as a good marketing strategy for the panel. HDTVTest further comment on this in their full review of the 42PZ70B below:

    http://www.*/Panasonic-TH42PZ70B

    PC HDMI Connectivity

    I have my TH-42PZ70B connected via DVI > HDMI to my HTPC with overscan turned OFF in the TV settings and it works like a charm. At this moment in time I do not have any information regarding connecting via VGA as I have not tried this and have no need to.

    Accessing Service Menu

    Press and hold -/V on the right hand side of the TV, press 0 on the remote three times then release -/V.

    Retailers

    Update Mar 30th 2008: The prices listed below were posted when this display was first released, they are now very out of date. I will leave them for the time being, however if anyone has any new updates please do not hesitate to PM me and I will begin to add them whilst fading out those currently below;

    • Panasonic RRP @ £1299.00

    • CramptonAndMoore @ £1,149.00 incl. 3 Year Warranty + £35.00 Delivery Charge

    • TotalDigital @ £1049.00 + £20.00 Delivery Charge

    • Ask @ £999.00 Collection From Tottenham Court Road, London Only. The in-store price ticket states £1129.95 therefore if you purchase from this store directly quote the online price and this is what they will sell the panel at.

    • CheapTelly @ £999.00 using voucher code 'TAGEDRAFRETH' + Free Delivery.

    • John Lewis Price Match: At this moment in time Ask is the best store to PM against. However as their in-store price ticket states £1129.95 this is the price JL will PM at. They will not enquire about the advertised £999.00 price as this is a form of haggling!

    • Empire Direct: £999.99 + £30 Delivery + £20 Extra membership to include a 5 yr warranty.

    Disclaimer: I have done my best to make the above as accurate as possible, I will be adding/editing (any) further details regarding the panel once they come to light & more people are able to have a tinker with this great TV.
     
  2. N42

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    Hey Elvis good post, very concise, maybe add some pics to go with it.
     
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    Spoke with Ask last night and they have in stock, also spoke with JL Kingston and they had 24 in stock at warehouse available for delivery. Be interesting to see the response to my pricematch requests for the undersales team.
     
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    Hi EViS, good post. I think I am going to follow this thread very closely because I think this is a cracking Plasma TV :smashin:

    I am very interested how good this screen will perform with Blu-ray @ 1080p24.

    Cheers,
    Fico
     
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    Just got off the phone with my pet anorak at Panasonic Technical
    He states that "the PZ70 does pretty much what the Pioneer 8G panels do
    i.e. Sample at 72hz"

    regards...
     
  6. EViS

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    You care to expand on this? As in the 24fps signal is converted to a 72hz one?
     
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    apparently the set like the pioneer just repeats each frame three times

    Regards...
     
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    So it's true 3:3 pulldown? suprised then that Panasonic aren't making a big deal this is a true 1080p24 compatible display.
     
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    oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh now im really getting excited

    explains why everyone is saying its smooth as silk :thumbsup:
     
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    We need to get some more confirmation of this prior to updating anything in the above spec...
     
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    as for a price match with JL and ask direct

    i got one at 1129 with JL
     
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    Could one of you Uk guys contact panasonic.co.uk to put that 24Hz information on homepage. I would give them name of the "Technical guy" that knows how pz70 handles 1080p24 to webpeople to update webpage.

    This would be last nail to lcd coffin.(for me)
     
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    probably when the PZ750 comes out they will make a big deal about this on that set and try and sell it more on that basis and I guess it will cost quite a bit more than the PZ70



    anyways.......sigh...:( I'm quite jealous, having viewed one of these sets its deffo too big for my room (it will be in a corner also), so will most likley be going with the TH37PX70....still I can use the cash I save on a decent upscaling dvd recorder :)
     
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    ordered mine and should receive it next week

    in the meantime would appreciate owners to post there settings they use

    i know i will need to break this tv, so any of your breakin settings would be appreciated , i have only ever owned a CRT

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Marketing, marketing . . . when you're introducing 3 new lines in a 6 month time span, you gotta dribble out the new features to keep the sets improving! Or, if that's too much trouble at the factory, introduce all the new features at once and just dribble out the TELLING people about them. :devil:

    Panasonic did the same in the PX60 - PX70 transition. The PX60s already accepted 1080p feed through hdmi, but it was never announced for that model. So Pana sold a shed-load of PX70s to people who had been waiting for 1080p compatibility. (On a 768 set!! :rotfl:).

    CHFels
     
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    Hi, Could someone please let me know the maximum resolution the component input will accept on the 42pz70.

    Many thanks
    Brian
     
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    I'm currently only using the standard CINEMA mode to view all sources on my 42pz70.

    Everything set on standard and cinema mode whilst I run it in.

    It's fantastic.:smashin:
     
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    has it got 1 or 2 RGB scarts ?

    cheers
     
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    2, but I don't use either. They are redundant.:smashin:
     
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    they wont be for me, so both are deffo RGB as some sets have 1 RGB and another scart

    cheers
     
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    Apologies for that error, I have now edited the specs. The set does in deed have 2 RGB's...
     
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    Mrs just phoned to say its arrived!!!!

    roll on 5 :clap:
     
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    EViS, the manual might be a useful addition to the 1st post, can be found at:

    42/50PZ70 Manual
     
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    it says Timeout accessing resource
     
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    Ah, Panasonic obviously don't like you direct linking :rolleyes: will if there's a way around it.

    Try this 42/50PZ70 Manual
     
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    Thanks JeffD, have added that link to the post :). Does anyone have measurements for the boxes & TV's themselves?
     
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    According to manual

    Dimensions ( W × H × D ) - Weight

    42PZ70 - 1,134 mm × 641 mm × 116 mm - 35.0 kg
    50PZ70 - 1,323 mm × 754 mm × 99.5 mm - 43.0 kg

    Strange that the 50" is thinner than the 42"
     
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    Does that incl. the stands?
     
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    Hi,

    Being an absolute novice on this, so please excuse me if I do not use the correct terminology.

    I am about to purchase a 42PZ70, but have read quite a bit about poor quality on standard terestial/SD signals.

    Can any owners comment on this please?

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
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    hi all,

    so is this pz70 the answer to all the bad things (24fps - motion judder) on the pz700?

    and someone mentioned the pz750 will be out soon, what does that have extra or resolve from the pz700?
     
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