Panasonic PX70 vs. PZ70

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  1. JediGarry

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    Hi all,

    After some advice! I am moving house in a few weeks (hopefully) and the Mrs has given me a budget of £1000(ish) and I've hit a dilema!

    I was hooked on the 42PZ70 after seeing one in Currys and reading the reviews on here and get get one for around the £950 mark.

    Then I started looking into an av receiver and speaker package. Found an Onkyo receiver for £200ish and Jamo speaker package for £180ish. Obviously this would take me over budget with the 42PZ70 but then thought about the 42PX70 which I can get for around £650ish. I've worked out I could get the 42PX70, Onkyo receiver and Jamo speakers for around £1100 which would be fine.

    My question is: is the PZ70 worth the extra money and sacraficing the speaker package and receiver. I've heard good things about both screens but I'm really torn. I would love to have the receiver and speakers as I'm really into films and gaming but I don't want to sacrifice picture quality as I know the PZ70 has a much higher resolution. Also I'm worried about future proofing, when I get a Blue Ray/HD DVD player in the future, I would like to watch at True HD which the PX70 can't?

    What to do folks? PZ70 for better pic quality or PX70 with still good pic quality but not future proofed but with receiver and speakers?

    Thanks all!:thumbsup:
     
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    I actually had more or less the same dilemma.

    Eventually, I decided on the TH42PX70, rather than the PZ, as it allowed me to purchase a good 5.1 system within budget, too.

    But really, it comes down to personal preference; only you can make this decision, and it seems as if you already know what's at stake.
     
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    i'd most probably have the px with a sound system. it would depend on your viewing distance if 1080 would make a difference. px seems to be able to produce whiter whites and still gives a cracking hd pic. a sound system makes such a difference to any viewing experience i'd rather go that way.
     
  4. JediGarry

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    Yeah I was thinking that. The sound setup really does make a difference. And I also heard the PX70 produces a cracking HD pic, even though anything above 720p is downscaled. Can someone confirm this?

    Anyone else with more good advice?
     
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    It has to be, because the screen does not have the native pixels required to show it in its true state. I have a PZ70, love the set, but after reading the original post, I think the PX70 with extra's should be your choice.

    Money wasnt quite one my mind when choosing the PZ, but Id strongly considered the PX right up until placing my order. I went with the PZ simply because Id never owned a plasma, which is besides the point, but Id never owned a 1080p set before. It was mostly out of curiosity. The PX's better SD pic did tempt me very much, but when I thought about it Id mostly be using it with my PS3, PC & X360. I watch very little TV and if I do, I watch it downstairs with the family. We have a 32" LXD500 downstairs, they think that TV is to big for the front room! Either way I think you would be more than happy with either set. Unless you plan on watching alot of bluray movies and other things which require 1080p Id say the PX was the obvious choice. At £650 they must be flying out of the shops I would imagine.
     
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    Hi

    I have the 42PX70 with a PS3 connected and the picture from Planet Earth Blu Ray is superb at 1080i.

    Casino Royale and Pirates of the Caribbean are pin sharp.

    The TV accepts 1080i and 1080p inputs by resizing them to 720p although with a 42inch you may not really need it.

    SD performance is also superb.

    A
     
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    I had to make exactly the same decision, in the end i went for the 42PZ70 mainly because it was full HD and i liked the look of the discreet speakers being at the side rather than being underneath on the PX.

    No matter what decision you make they are both excellent plasmas and their isn`t a lot between both sets, ive been impressed with the SD on the 42PZ70 so far as its excellent and the sound was another nice suprise as it was a lot more than i was expecting.

    I can understand the people that choose the PX70 as they can buy a nice sound system for it with the money they have saved, i`m very happy with the 42PZ70 and at the end of the day its down to personal preference and what suits your needs best. One thing is clear though which is Panasonic make great plasmas at an excellent price.
     
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    Thanks very much for your thoughts guys.

    I like the idea of the PX with the whole sound thing but now I'm looking into Blue Ray and I just can't help thinking of the future proof aspect of true HD.

    Aaaarrrgggghhhhh this is so difficult!!!!!!

    Lot's of thinking to do I think!!!!!

    Can anyone else give me their thoughts on the PZ70's 1080p pic vs the PX70's 1080p chip processing?
     
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    Garry

    Dont get too hung up on resolution at 42" you have to get too close to see the differences

    They use the same chip processor

    regards
     
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    I'd have the PX with a 5.1 sound system - especially if you watch movies and play games consoles. 5.1 sound adds a whole new dimension IMO especially for gaming - Bioshock in 5.1 with a sub is just so much more scary :eek:

    I bought the PZ. I already have the 5.1 sound (last years treat to myself) and with the PZ being reduced to £889, which is what the PX used to be (and is again) I thought it was a good buy at that price and I also preferred the styling.

    Are you close to any panasonic stores where you can go and see the same feed on both sets. A smaller AV shop would be better than the big high street retailers.

    This may help to find one...
    http://www.panasonic.co.uk/customer-Support/selling-dealer-locator.asp
     
  11. JediGarry

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    Ok so what your saying is:

    There isn't a noticable difference between the PZ70 running 1920x1080 vs the PX70 running 1024x768? That doesn't make sense to me? Surley the PZ70 would produce a much better pic? If you ran a test firstly plugging a ps3 at 1080p via HDMI into the PZ70, it wouldn't have to do any scaling right? If you plugged the same into the PX70, it would need to use some kind of trickery to run (downscale to 720p then use some kind of image enhancer to try and match the true HD sharpness) and look any good?

    Someone help :lease:
     
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    I went and saw both sets at Curries but I could only get so much out of them due to the crapo feeds they use. I have to be honest, I prefered the PZ.
     
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    OK guys I'm in the same boat as everyone here looking for a new plasma which in my case my first one.
    Considering the 50" version.... childrens choice ( the bigger the better idea)

    I can get the 50" PX for £900 without ped or £1000 with ped also the 50" PZ for £1400 (cant be bother waiting for the JL pricematch now:thumbsdow). Got an option of O% interst free credit if you spend over £1000. So for you guys who actually demoed both items, is it really worth to get the PZ over the PX. I could save £500 if I choose the PX wallmount option and can get an extra TV for the bedroom with the savings. One thing that bugs me is will I regret it if I choose the PX over PZ:suicide:. Another option is to wait the new Panasonic range:rolleyes:

    Only got a PS3 at the moment and not really looking to get SKY hd maybe few blurays film. Also if playing the PS3 is there a big difference in picture quality between the 2 models.ie 720 opposed to 1080 I know most game only play at 720.:lease:
     
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    I also wouldn't get too hung up on resolution.

    I currently have a 480P panasonic plasma and a sony 5.1 receiver. There is no way in the world that i would give up the 5.1 receiver for a 1080p set. So there is definetly no way that i would give up a dolby digital set up to go for 1080p over 768P(720P).

    Get the PX and the Onkyo amp. Otherwise it would be like having 20:20 vision, but being deaf:)
     
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    Bigger is not always better for SD TV viewing, depending on how close you are sitting. So if the majority of your viewing will be SD for the next cpl of years I'd take that into account too.

    I personally wouldn't have spent 500 extra on the PZ over the PX if that was the price difference between the 42 that I bought having looked at both of them.

    Same advice applies - find a smaller retailer using that link and go have a look.
     
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    It depends how far you sit from the TV, if you sit closer than about 7-8' then the PZ may start to be better be better, further away than that and there's no difference due to the resolution so the 1920x1080 resolution is pointless.

    They both take a 1080p signal, the PZ will do some scaling because of overscan but not much, the PX will downscale to 1024x768 but that is quite easy and should not cause picture problems. Upscaling from SD is much more difficult and along with de-interlacing is where problems can occur and people are not happy with their TV.
     
  17. JediGarry

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    Thanks for the advice, that makes sense to me. I'm sure you can all understand I want to get the best kit based on what is considered good vs. not so good. It turns out the PX model is still a cracking set and I'm now leaning back towards it. I think the option of getting the Onkyo and Jamo combo is too tempting!!!!
     
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    I think considering youre options youre leaning the right way - dont get me wrong dont think you will be dissapointed with either set but the option to add the additional components will give a more overall home cinema experience

    And at 42" the PX will look good with both SD and HD

    Now go and make that final look

    Regards
     
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    Just make sure you can get the PX for 650ish - everywhere seems to be out of stock and those with stock seem to be whacking the prices back up now, so I wouldn't rush into it - but I'd keep my eye on stock levels and prices.
     
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    i noticed the xbox controller in your av, do you plan on doing HD gaming on the PX70?
     
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    Without the Onkyo and the speakers in the equation I would choose the PZ over the PX every time.

    I think it depends on when you could afford to add the Onkyo and the speakers if you bought the PZ. It depends on whether or not you are prepared to wait this long for good sound to go with the PZ.

    Either way both plasmas are very good.

    Scott
     
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    Yes I do. If I go with the PX/Onkyo rig, I will probably run the 360 (set at 720p) into the Onkyo (along with my dvd player and maybe Sky+ if it has the right connections) then just run one HDMI from the Onkyo in the plasma.

    I assume that's the best way to do it?
     
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    No idea, but i am interested to read some feedback on how the plasma handles 360 gaming once you have it all set up :)
     
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    No worries, I will give a full report once it's all going.

    Actually, can someone else answer that question or is it for a different forum? Can I run my Sky+ box (via component), my dvd player (via component) and my 360 (also via component(and using them all up)) all into the Onkyo then run just one HDMI cable into the plasma and use the Onkyo to switch sources? Will the Onkyo run the correct signal through to the plasma for each device? E.g will it pass the 360's 720p signal via HDMI etc?

    Thanks again all!!!!!:smashin:
     
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    Plenty of feedback in the PX/PZ threads already. My PZ70 is great with the 360 via component.
     
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    Please can you tell me where you can get a PX70 for £650? I can only find it for about 100 quid more.

    Thanks.
     
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    Dixons £719
    Pixmania £702.10

    thats the best prices I can find.
     
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    The dixons price is without a stand and I cannot find it on pixmania. The best price I can find with stand is £765. Best price for PZ70 with stand is £935 so I'm really struggling to decide between the two.
     
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    I would avoid Pixmania simply because they are a complete nightmare for returns and customer support in general. What you save you will spend on phone calls if anything should go wrong in my experience - and that was on small item (a camcorder).

    Unfortunately Dixons are showing out of stock when I checked just now. But often have a code for discount. PR25 was the last one I heard of £25 off 499+

    42PZ70 for £933 free delivery at Sound and Vision, which is where I bought mine from.
    http://www.soundandvisiononline.com/listview/index.asp?strSearch=42pz70

    42PX70-PED is £799
    http://www.soundandvisiononline.com/moreinfo/index.asp?product_id=12738
     
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    At current pricing I think the PZ70 is worth the extra. You get a useful 1:1 pixel mode, side a/v inputs, better motion control to reduce judder, better sound I believe, nicer styling and case and of course full HD resolution that really future proofs the set as there is nothing better on the horizon. The PX70 is a great set but I think the extra is easily justified for the PZ70. I don't believe standard definition images are weaker on the PZ either. The only thing I don't like about the pz is the extra width due to the speakers being placed on the sides of the screen.
     

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