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Panasonic Plasmas & HDMI?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Rasczak, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. Rasczak

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    Does anyone know if Panasonic plans to add a HDMI module for any of their plasma range in the next 12 months or so? Having seen the Panasonic range in action this has come to the forefront on my shopping list but the lack of HDMI is a bit of a show-stopper. Anyone got any info?
     
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    Hi,

    Do you particularly need HDMI due to cable length, or would the standard DVI-HDCP card suffice?

    Steve
     
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    would the panny accept a signal from a hdmi dvd player via the dvi input. if it did i presume it would be video only?
     
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    yes thats right video only.
    also bear in mind the pw6 will down scale a dvd pic above 480p
    and that there are still problems with the dvi hdcp card from panasonic. youll need the hi def phd6 to realy benefit here or better still the 50ins model.
    but there is definately problems with the sd display.

    in the states panasonic have models now with hdmi but only on there hi def panels of 1024x768 and not on the sd panels 852x458(whats the point if it down scales right)

    so yes i think we will see the next lot of panys pw "7" will feature a hdmi input but i reckon it will only be on hi def models.
     
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    gandley,

    the point with HDMI is that it can save you a analog-digital conversion no matter what the screen resolution is. That Panasonic doesn't offer (?) HDMI on SD models is probably due to the bean-counters. But otherwise it makes sense and it will be the standard connection in future.

    That's the way Pana thinks and works :mad: . And thats one of the reasons why I ordered a Pio 434 !
     
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    The reason I want a HDMI socket is for 'future proofing' more than anything - obviously a plasma that costs so much needs to last for 3 or 4 years and in that time I will certainly be upgrading my DVD player (probably to one with HDMI).

    As I understand it DVI carries the video signal only (no great problem) but, that apart, are there any other significant differences? I saw from a different post that Panasonic sell a HDMI-DVI cable so does this effectively give the same result as HDMI-HDMI only with no audio?

    When are we likely to see the 7 series? How long have the 6 series been out?
     
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    For simplicity's sake you can think of HDMI as DVI plus iLink - it's DVI format video that can easily be transferred pin-to-pin to a HDCP DVI socket.

    (of course this is all in theory only until I can get actually get the player, and then the cable, to test!)
     
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    Rasczak,

    The reason I asked about cable length is that HDMI transmitters/receivers allow a much longer cable than the recommended DVI maximum of 7.5m. I'm guessing an HDMI-DVI cable would also be limited to 7.5m due to the DVI receiver limitations.

    Liam,

    I thought HDMI carried only stereo audio at the moment (although it should allow up to 8 channels in future), but doesn't allow multi-channel protected audio like iLink.

    Steve
     
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    Steve,

    yes currently only 2 channel audio, but I think the main idea is to get it to carry multichannel audio at high sampling rates as and when. (It's never gonna replace the scart lead otherwise!!!)

    Interestingly iLink can be used for high bandwidth audio (6 channels of 24bit @ 192Khz), or, Dolby Digital plus MPEG2 video!
     
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    yes i fully understand the digital connection thanks, but a analogue 720p signal will probably be better than a 480 hdmi one

    Someone on avs forum has had a chance to compare so ill try and find the thread.
    so whats the point of a nice signal only to have it scaled down?
     
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    The resolution is not everything. The bandwidth makes the picture look good and also the quality of the signals which suffers with every conversion. We have to get away of this pixel count thinking.

    Re. comparison DVI vs. HDMI: one thing to be aware of is that DVI has compatibility issues whereas (hopefully) the HDMI is better in this respect. HDMI equipment has to finish compatibility tests to get the HDMI logo which makes sure that different pieces work together without tweaking . I understand that lots of people are experiencing problems with DVI for the a.m. reason.
     
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    Does this apply to DVI-HDCP as well?
     
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    yes imho
     

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