Ashketchup
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Yep, it needs to be in rest mode or switched on.Hi
You can? I never knew you could. Would the PS5 need to be in Rest Mode though?
Thanks
Barry
Yep, it needs to be in rest mode or switched on.Hi
You can? I never knew you could. Would the PS5 need to be in Rest Mode though?
Thanks
Barry
Go to the app, click on your game library, click on game, click on downloadHi
You can? I never knew you could. Would the PS5 need to be in Rest Mode though?
Thanks
Barry
HiYep, it needs to be in rest mode or switched on.
HiSome more thoughts on the VRR issue. I know some of us here were theorizing that it stems from the PS5 using the HDMI forum VRR standard, and not AMD's Freesync like the Xbox. But in Vincent's video review of the JZ980, we can see that he's feeding the TV a 120hz VRR signal:
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[B]@BarryMcKelvey your TV displays 'FreeSync Premium' and not 'VRR' when you press the info button on a 120hz VRR signal from your Xbox, right?[/B] If we can surmise that FreeSync signals are labelled as such, then that means Vincent able to feed the TV a 120hz HDMI forum VRR signal. Which could be proof of the Playstation being at fault, not the TV.
Yes, but I imagine leaving just the HDD switched on on the Xbox is akin to leaving the PS5 in rest mode. The Xbox is not just keeping the HDD on, but also staying on in a very low power mode. It needs its networking hardware powered on to intercept messages from Microsoft's servers (like you downloading a game from the app) and needs the CPU on (albeit probably in a very lower power state) to unpack and install the downloaded game. 'Rest mode' and 'HDD on' are probably very similar in terms of power draw, if that's your concern. And you can disable extra power drawing features like power to the USB ports in rest mode on the PS5, if you so desire.Hi
Yes, but that relies on my putting the PlayStation 5 into Rest Mode. With the Xbox Series X, I leave the HDD Switch on in Settings. If I was away from home and the Xbox Series X isn't turned on the game would still install. If my understanding is correct?
You can PM me if you want, so we're no longer derailing the main topic of this thread.
Thanks
Barry
Vincent has a PC that does 4K 120. I assume that's what he's used to display that pattern. Unless its from a signal generator.Some more thoughts on the PS5 VRR issue. I know some of us here were theorizing that it stems from the PS5 using the HDMI forum VRR standard, and not AMD's Freesync like the Xbox. But in Vincent's video review of the JZ980, we can see that he's feeding the TV a 120hz VRR signal:
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@BarryMcKelvey your TV displays 'FreeSync Premium' and not 'VRR' when you press the info button on a 120hz VRR signal from your Xbox, right? If we can surmise that FreeSync signals are labelled as such, then that means Vincent able to feed the TV a 120hz HDMI forum VRR signal. Which could be proof of the Playstation being at fault, not the TV.
Yes, exactly. He's probably using the PC with the Nvidia 3XXX series graphics card he's shown in some of his other videos. Those cards support Nvidia's own proprietary VRR implementation, G-sync, and fall back on HDMI forum standard VRR if the display does not support G-sync. Our Panasonic TVs do not support G-sync.Vincent has a PC that does 4K 120. I assume that's what he's used to display that pattern. Unless its from a signal generator.
But why are other TVs with presumably the same or similar chipset not limited to 60Hz? Or at least I have not heard anything like it.Yes, exactly. He's probably using the PC with the Nvidia 3XXX series graphics card he's shown in some of his other videos. Those cards support Nvidia's own proprietary VRR implementation, G-sync, and fall back on HDMI forum standard VRR if the display does not support G-sync. Our Panasonic TVs do not support G-sync.
Thus we can assume that the TV can accept a 120hz HDMI forum VRR signal, because my screenshot shows it doing so from Vincent's Nvidia graphics card. The leading theory before was that these TV can only accept a 120hz Freesync signal, which is what the Xbox Series X uses. Freesync is AMD's own proprietary implementation of VRR which Sony is not using, opting to use the HDMI forum standard instead.
That's why I'm now thinking it's a Playstation issue rather than a Panasonic one.
Yes, exactly. He's probably using the PC with the Nvidia 3XXX series graphics card he's shown in some of his other videos. Those cards support Nvidia's own proprietary VRR implementation, G-sync, and fall back on HDMI forum standard VRR if the display does not support G-sync. Our Panasonic TVs do not support G-sync.
Thus we can assume that the TV can accept a 120hz HDMI forum VRR signal, because my screenshot shows it doing so from Vincent's Nvidia graphics card. The leading theory before was that these TV can only accept a 120hz Freesync signal, which is what the Xbox Series X uses. Freesync is AMD's own proprietary implementation of VRR which Sony is not using, opting to use the HDMI forum standard instead.
That's why I'm now thinking it's a Playstation issue rather than a Panasonic one.
If I've understood what I've read elsewhere correctly, although the 2021 Panasonic range have HDMI 2.1 on-board, they opt for Freesync first for VRR and there's no way to disable it.But why are other TVs with presumably the same or similar chipset not limited to 60Hz? Or at least I have not heard anything like it.
Assuming that the 2022 models are using the same chipset, and the gaming-oriented marketing Panasonic is doing, they really have to fix this problem. Otherwise, even if it is not the end of the world, they will loose access to the gaming market.
Honestly, it is such a complicated issue, it doesn't appear straight forward.If it’s a problem with forum vrr , surely it could be either Sony or pansonic at fault (or maybe even both ?).
I can’t think of any other forum vrr devices so maybe pansonic didn’t have anything to test forum vrr with - they just assumed since the other vrr standards work , forum vrr would work too.
Unless there’s something wrong between the PS5 and the specific meditek model Panasonic use (as far as I’m aware sony use a different mediatek model ) , can’t see why the problem seems more specific to pansonic TVs .
HiIf I've understood what I've read elsewhere correctly, although the 2021 Panasonic range have HDMI 2.1 on-board, they opt for Freesync first for VRR and there's no way to disable it.
And despite using an AMD processor, Sony have opted to use the HDMI 2.1 standard version of VRR.
The curse of HDMI 2.1, and its widely fudged implementation by literally every manufacturer, strikes again.
HiHonestly, it is such a complicated issue, it doesn't appear straight forward.
You can get fixed 120Hz from Dirt 5 without issue. It would appear you can get VRR from 48-60Hz without issue.
What you can't get is from 48-120hz VRR (scratches head). Apparently, the X-Box does 20-120Hz VRR.
What improvements would VRR @ 120hz give please, is it better picture quality or reduced judder/tearing?
The curse of HDMI 2.1, and its widely fudged implementation by literally every manufacturer, strikes again.
Sorry for the confusion.Hi
How are you getting 120Hz Fixed VRR with Dirt 5, is the PS5 will only allow 48 - 60Hz VRR?
Thanks in Advance
Barry
2023-24?! I’ll be sniffing around the new models that year to buy again!If I didn’t have a “TV-free” lounge and a whole bunch of content I’ve been delaying to use on an oled , I would have just tried to wait out the storm and hope that 2023-2024 would give us flawless vrr … but fate has other plans for me .. for better or worse
Hi2023-24?! I’ll be sniffing around the new models that year to buy again!
Hi
I got my Panasonic TX65JZ2000B towards the end of last year, it will have to last me a good 10 years before I can upgrade lol.
Barry
2023-24?! I’ll be sniffing around the new models that year to buy again!
But why are other TVs with presumably the same or similar chipset not limited to 60Hz? Or at least I have not heard anything like it.
Assuming that the 2022 models are using the same chipset, and the gaming-oriented marketing Panasonic is doing, they really have to fix this problem. Otherwise, even if it is not the end of the world, they will loose access to the gaming market.
If it’s a problem with forum vrr , surely it could be either Sony or pansonic at fault (or maybe even both ?).
I can’t think of any other forum vrr devices so maybe pansonic didn’t have anything to test forum vrr with - they just assumed since the other vrr standards work , forum vrr would work too.
Unless there’s something wrong between the PS5 and the specific meditek model Panasonic use (as far as I’m aware sony use a different mediatek model ) , can’t see why the problem seems more specific to pansonic TVs .
What improvements would VRR @ 120hz give please, is it better picture quality or reduced judder/tearing?