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Same hereThanks. Will get calibrated once I know I’m keeping the set!
Same hereThanks. Will get calibrated once I know I’m keeping the set!
Yes, that would be good for all GZ OLED owners.Perhaps Vincent will clarify this for us.
Couldn't agree more.If I look at test patterns, the tint is quite in your face.
But in real world content, that's certainly not the case... and that's what matters in the end.
Actually I think the more you pay for it the more I would say I want to eeek that small bit of extra performance or correction. And is set up for my environmentI think it's a pain for owners of a £4300 Flagship Customized panel to then have to go and spend at least another £400 to get the picture right , it's a joke.
Couldn't disagree more.I think it's a pain for owners of a £4300 Flagship Customized panel to then have to go and spend at least another £400 to get the picture right , it's a joke.
Actually I think the more you pay for it the more I would say I want to eeek that small bit of extra performance or correction.
I bet even that 20 grand B and W needs calibration. Although for that money I hope they throw one in for you!! Also think of the cost of the wall paper model and the retractable LG one. Way over the gz2000 cost but still need calibrating I bet.
I see it as a small investment personally.
And no one has to get it calibrated.
Edit: and for the wife it’s worth it to stop my incessant settings fiddling
I do see your point but they never said it would be perfectly calibrated to a specific spec. I imagine there are many variables before they could promise this. They might even drift from these settings if they calibrated in the factory. Dunno. I would imagine the only way could guarantee this is including a calibration in home after purchase. And maybe a calibrators opinion of way off might not matter to everyone.I'm not saying it will not improve it but I think the way it's marketed as the holy grail with a specially customized panel from panasonic experts and Hollywood i personally think it should be right out of the box and not all over the place as described , still a great tv .
I think there is some truth in this. There are defined industry standards for image reproduction. Either a TV leaves the factory and meets those standards or it does not. Panasonic seem to have done a reasonable job on the GZ series by most accounts and the GZ2000 is a consumer level TV but not cheap.I'm not saying it will not improve it but I think the way it's marketed as the holy grail with a specially customized panel from panasonic experts and Hollywood i personally think it should be right out of the box and not all over the place as described , still a great tv .
They are defined standards but, how accurare an TV is, is greatly impacted by the viewing environment, and the resulting choice of picture settings. It's this and normal mass production panel variances that calibration will correct. To be blunt, to expect a consumer, mass produced TV to be perfectly accurate in every end user scenario is not logical.I think there is some truth in this. There are defined industry standards for image reproduction. Either a TV leaves the factory and meets those standards or it does not.
But you’re expecting the the processing to be the same on a 4K OLED vs a 1080 plasma. You can’t compare the 2. If other OLED manufactures had managed to get a game mode working with IFC enabled AND 20ms response I would understand your complaint but it obviously can’t be done.Perhaps Vincent will clarify this for us.
I'm certainly going to get mine calibrated as well but need to put the hours on it first.
It's gonna take a while...
If I look at test patterns, the tint is quite in your face.
But in real world content, that's certainly not the case... and that's what matters in the end.
The white room scene in The Matrix is (in some frames) almost fully white and did not bother me. Of course, there are also the factors that it's only 2.39:1 aspect ratio and all the film grain from the 35mm it was shot on.
I might need to check some movies shot digitally and without any or too much digital grain added in post processing.
That's true, but it's unfair Panasonic has restricted this by default.
As mentioned, it wasn't like this on the plasma. There I had all processing turned off with the exception of IFC set to Min, and Game Mode ON, of course. It made a significant difference in input lag so IFC wasn't influencing it that much.
Even if IFC enabled has a hit on input lag, it's certainly miles better than the 120ms experienced with Game Mode OFF.
Panasonic should have let this down to each individual user, meaning that whoever wants IFC disabled in Game Mode (like gamers) can do so, and who ever wants both enabled can do so (like people watching content from PC, such as myself).
This is on them and they should be made aware of it.
To be blunt, to expect a consumer, mass produced TV to be perfectly accurate in every end user scenario is not logical.
I've not read anywhere that Panasonic states it meets any particular standards, out of the factory either. That seems to be a typical assumption of some end users...
Paul
I'm not saying it will not improve it but I think the way it's marketed as the holy grail with a specially customized panel from panasonic experts and Hollywood i personally think it should be right out of the box and not all over the place as described , still a great tv .
That's your expectation. Or is it? You seem to state that's not your expectation, then state it is.But on a 65 Inch TV that costs more than £4000 and is marketed as professional, with images as how the director intended then you shouldn't need to fork out for a calibration.
They do but, they never define what that actually means. In reality, it could mean anything.They boast that this TV is the "Choice of Hollywood Professionals".
Even reference monitors require calibration.Don't forget this is a consumer product. Not a reference montior.
You said..."To be blunt, to expect a consumer, mass produced TV to be perfectly accurate in every end user scenario is not logical."That's your expectation. Or is it? You seem to state that's not your expectation, then state it is.
They do but, they never define what that actually means. In reality, it could mean anything.
Paul
I did write that and you did write that in response, and then you wrote (in the same post) a similar 'but' statement to the below, essentially reversing your "I'd never expect that" statement, now stating that you would expect that. And you've done the same in here. Hence my confusion.You said..."To be blunt, to expect a consumer, mass produced TV to be perfectly accurate in every end user scenario is not logical."
I said I'd never expect that and I would not.
Does it? I'm not trying to be argumentative but, I'm a consumer and that's not what it implies to me. To me, it merely implies that the display is used by professionals in Hollywood. Nothing more, nothing less.But Panasonic markets the TV as a professional model used by Hollywood and there is a reasonable expectation on behalf of the consumer that those words imply accuracy with industry standards.
It's not a custom panel. Panasonic just get the panel early in the production. Sony, lg, Samsung TV's cost in the same price range. They don't come calibrated.
The picture quality out the box is excellent and most will be happy with that.
If people can afford it why can't they have it calibrated.
Don't forget this is a consumer product. Not a reference montior.
Cheers for the updateApparently the next batch or supply from Panasonic isnt available until from w/c 16th sept at earliest so hoping they get fixes out before that supply arrives to give them time to fix these sets too hopefully. I will patiently wait for it.