Panasonic GZ2000 4K OLED Review & Comments

stevebk

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I wouldn't be surprised in 2020 to see only 2 ports for HDMI 2.1, the other 2 will still be 2.0b. These manufacturers don't like to give us everything at once or they have very little to offer the following year.
 

AndretheTVguy

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How do you know advanced image retention mitigation not been out long enough. Because the screen is slightly brighter had to put in place further measures. Does not make all the other oled more susceptible to screen burn.
Another reviewer (VT) gave his thoughts and demonstrated in his video the difference in image retention on the GZ2000 and Other OLEDs. He goes as far as saying this difference alone may 'maybe worth paying the price premium for the GZ2000'.

I actually spoke to someone today who was interested in OLED but has a plasma that had the SKY pause button burn into his screen. That extra peace of mind has made his decision to get a GZ2000 around Black Friday
 

mtenga

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Another reviewer (VT) gave his thoughts and demonstrated in his video the difference in image retention on the GZ2000 and Other OLEDs. He goes as far as saying this difference alone may 'maybe worth paying the price premium for the GZ2000'.

I actually spoke to someone today who was interested in OLED but has a plasma that had the SKY pause button burn into his screen. That extra peace of mind has made his decision to get a GZ2000 around Black Friday
It is funny but I am now on my fourth OLED and through normal day to day watching, and the odd weekend binge, I’ve never seen any image retention. My last plasma, the VT65, would frequently retain images but I could wash them away and never had burn in. That’s anecdotal but I wonder how much of an issue it really is for normal viewers.
 

golden phoenix

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CES might not seem far away but it'll be June 2020 before the TVs are available and that's 9 months away ! :D
That's true, but at least you would know what is coming, and you would have a choice then, and hopefully the price of this set might have dropped a bit?
 

PineTree

Standard Member
It is funny but I am now on my fourth OLED and through normal day to day watching, and the odd weekend binge, I’ve never seen any image retention. My last plasma, the VT65, would frequently retain images but I could wash them away and never had burn in. That’s anecdotal but I wonder how much of an issue it really is for normal viewers.
Did you ever did a test pattern on your OLEDs?
 

mtenga

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AndretheTVguy

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It is funny but I am now on my fourth OLED and through normal day to day watching, and the odd weekend binge, I’ve never seen any image retention. My last plasma, the VT65, would frequently retain images but I could wash them away and never had burn in. That’s anecdotal but I wonder how much of an issue it really is for normal viewers.
I dont think its much of an issue for the majority of people out there
 

Tim2049

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It is funny but I am now on my fourth OLED and through normal day to day watching, and the odd weekend binge, I’ve never seen any image retention. My last plasma, the VT65, would frequently retain images but I could wash them away and never had burn in. That’s anecdotal but I wonder how much of an issue it really is for normal viewers.
Speaks volumes does that. There is WAY too much emphasis on this kind of thing amongst 'enthusiasts'. Fact is, it's barely an issue in reality.

Reminds me of when people talk about being happy to pay extra for 'perfect uniformity. It's a fine line, but it gets a bit silly...
 
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golden phoenix

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Speaks volumes does that. There is WAY too much emphasis on this kind of thing amongst 'enthisiasts'. Fact is, it's barely an issue in reality.

Reminds me of when people talk about being happy to pay extra for 'perfect uniformity. It's a fine line, but it gets a bit silly...
Paying over £4,000 for a TV people expect perfection!
 

youngsyp

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Paying over £4,000 for a TV people expect perfection!
I'm not sure they do.

I bought one knowing it had an issue with audio reproduction and minor posterisation in extreme specular highlights. The latter is still an issue. We're all aware its colour performance doesn't cover the full DCI P3 colourspace, let alone the Rec.2020 colourspace too, so needs to tone map colour to fit into its native colour response. Similarly with its need to tone map HDR too, as it can't go bright enough for the current grading approach.

Enthusiasts understand there is no such thing as the perfect TV, and probably never will be but, the GZ2000 get's as close as any TV before it has. :smashin:

Paul
 
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Tegs200

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I agree with all of the above as there is know perfect tv but again it's what your priorities are as for living room it came top but was beat into second place for HDR which is what these tv's are all about by LG in the blind shootout , I'm not saying it's not the best tv but its definetly the most expensive and I think you really have to love Panasonic or have deep pockets for the real world difference.
 

youngsyp

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I agree with all of the above as there is know perfect tv but again it's what your priorities are as for living room it came top but was beat into second place for HDR which is what these tv's are all about by LG in the blind shootout
And yet Phil noted the GZ2000 "
offered a slightly better SDR and HDR performance that had a more natural colour tone and a white balance that wasn’t as cyan as the C9. But in all other picture attribute areas, both screens were extremely similar to each other, with the same inky deep blacks and shadow detail. We did note that the GZ2000 and GZ950 have slightly better screen uniformity and just above black detail retrieval where the C9 did slightly crush, even when correctly calibrated.".

The C9 also won the 'Black & shadow detail' and 'Colour accuracy' sections in the shootout, which would also seem to contradict Steve's trained opinion...

That being the case, if you buy a TV based on other people's opinion, you'd tend to make that buying decision based on who's opinion you value most.


Paul
 
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Tegs200

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And yet Steve noted the GZ2000 "
offered a slightly better SDR and HDR performance that had a more natural colour tone and a white balance that wasn’t as cyan as the C9. But in all other picture attribute areas, both screens were extremely similar to each other, with the same inky deep blacks and shadow detail. We did note that the GZ2000 and GZ950 have slightly better screen uniformity and just above black detail retrieval where the C9 did slightly crush, even when correctly calibrated.".

The C9 also won the 'Black & shadow detail' and 'Colour accuracy' sections in the shootout, which would also seem to contradict Steve's trained opinion...

That being the case, if you buy a TV based on other people's opinion, you'd tend to make that buying decision based on who's opinion you value most.


Paul

All that is true regarding the C9 in uniformity but not with the E9 but for some reason it's not used making that category an easier one to edge.
 

Tegs200

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I think Vincent's latest E9 review also points to the excellent uniformity on this TV and on par with the GZ2000 IMO.
 

robase007

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Why does the GZ950 get a 10 in colour accuracy and GZ2000 get a 9? Looking at both reviews they appear Identical apart from slightly higher HDR peak brightness on the GZ2000. SDR is identical.
 

kb33

Active Member
Still waiting for my GZ2000 to turn up , Panasonic Canada have them in very short supply , But I'll guess I'll have to make do with my GZ1000 ( first world problems :))
Anyway I'm shopping for a subwoofer and I dug some old cables out , One of which is a dedicated woofer cable , But it doesn't seem to fit too good in the GZ , sort of only goes so far in , The 3.5 mm headphone cable fits fine , what's everyone else using ? I can't try the fancy woofer cable as Ive no subwoofer at the moment .
 

deon444

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Still waiting for my GZ2000 to turn up , Panasonic Canada have them in very short supply , But I'll guess I'll have to make do with my GZ1000 ( first world problems :))
Anyway I'm shopping for a subwoofer and I dug some old cables out , One of which is a dedicated woofer cable , But it doesn't seem to fit too good in the GZ , sort of only goes so far in , The 3.5 mm headphone cable fits fine , what's everyone else using ? I can't try the fancy woofer cable as Ive no subwoofer at the moment .
You need a rca phono to 3.5mm stereo Jack cable
 

Tegs200

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For someone who's so happy with their LG, you seem surprisingly concerned about the GZ2000 🙄
I am lol but I like popping over to this forum just to let them know that you really can choose other than Panasonic and Sony and get as good or sometimes better tv plus I love the banter and I really wouldn't change it (why would I)
 

Jim Di Griz

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I am lol but I like popping over to this forum just to let them know that you really can choose other than Panasonic and Sony and get as good or sometimes better tv plus I love the banter and I really wouldn't change it (why would I)
I wonder if any Panasonic owners do the same in the LG/Sony threads? :rolleyes:
 

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