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Well guys, after a couple of hours of spent playing uncharted 4 on both zt60 and ez952 (hdr active), I have to admit that I'd never expected such a difference between the two sets: oled simply outperforms plasma in every aspect, and the gap is huge. Even intelligent frame creation is way better on oled than plasma, I could play with a pretty decent input lag with ifc at max level and getting a very close 60 fps experience, albeit with very minor artifacts and hiccups.
A short but necessary premise: my use of the tv is 60% pc gaming, 30% ps4 gaming, 10% movies - tv shows. Motion clarity is my only priority, i don't care about the creator intentions and if content is not 60fps or more, be it games, movies or tv shows, I set loose as many motion enhancements as possible to get the video as smoot as possible. I'm no expert at all, i honestly can't really tell the difference between noise, posterization or gradation but I can tell if I like it or not when I look at something.
So, the guy at the shop was kind enough to let me "play" with both tvs for around 30 minutes. I set the A1 on true cinema, with smooth gradation on high level and motionflow on fluid, while for the 952 I chose professional 1 mode and intelligent frame creation on max level. First I tried the latest episode of twin peaks (720 p) which is full of dark scenes and It didn't look good at all played via pc with vlc on my zt60 (a lot of - what I think is called - macroblocking). Well, results were incredibly better here on both sets, no macroblocking and way better upscaling than my plasma. I couldn't say which one looked better but both outperformed my plasma for sure. After twin peaks I played a 4k30fps hdr Horizon zero dawn video downloaded from the YouTube hdr channel. I can't say if hdr was really active but colors on A1 were more vibrant, maybe the whole image popped a bit more. Nonetheless, i much preferred the more soft and natural approach of Panasonic's colours. Finally i watched some soccer on sky and again the Panasonic to my eyes was better in both color and motion, it simply feels natural. In the end what primarily drove my decision was my perceived better motion on the Panasonic, everything else was of secondary importance. I don't care about Dolby vision, and saving €1000 will let me update sooner when ps5 is out in 2019-20 (when hdmi 2.1 with VRR will finally give console gaming the boost it deserves). A friend of mine was kind enough to lend me his ps4 to compare games simultaneously on ZT60 and EZ952, I'll let you know in the next few days. If you want me to try anything for you just ask and I'll try my best
I've had the Pana 952 for a week now
Joining the owners club on Tuesday, got a great price match off Richer Sounds, £2,514.98 on the 55" EZ952.
Great stuff - hope you're happy with it! I'm sure you will be. It seems this is the year OLED has really matured and been refined - I'm not seeing many problems reported on any of the owners' threads, for any manufacturer.Joining the owners club on Tuesday, got a great price match off Richer Sounds, £2,514.98 on the 55" EZ952.
Great stuff - hope you're happy with it! I'm sure you will be. It seems this is the year OLED has really matured and been refined - I'm not seeing many problems reported on any of the owners' threads, for any manufacturer.
Thats great news and I appreciate the comments from ex Panasonic plasma owners! Going to read more about this one but it looks like my mind is made up...Quest to owners: please check you panel using white or very light color content and see if one side of screen turns just a little bit reddish when watching from an angle. This is most apparent with color temp Warm2 in all picture modes in my set.
Similar report in the Sony thread so might be the LG panels.
Otherwise I would grade this 11 in the scale of 1 to 10. Especially all kind of motion (fast, slow, camera pans, scrolling text horizontal and vertical, people walking cross the screen - this is what I have tested so far) is excellent, and my previous tv was vt60 which was Reference class. I recommend experimenting with IFC custom.
Surprisingly though Panasonic has left the look of epg unchanged from their latest plasmas.
One of the main reason that probably my first try will be this Panasonic.Panny has such accurate colours out of the box
One of the main reason that probably my first try will be this Panasonic.
How is the OS? I've checked at Panasonic's website that they already released new firmware so they will probably keep the TV fresh or fix issues fast.
Good.Yes the interface seemed OK, had to update the firmware before use but all worked fine, my first taste of a smart TV but all seems pretty slick.
The only thing I would say is that I like to use an Ethernet cable but once one is plugged in you can't attached the rear cover which sits over all the inputs which seems a bit of an oversight, I guess it you can buy slimline ethernet cables?
So guys, last night I played around with pc and ps4 and here's the report:
- I'm starting to suspect that these ez950s are equipped with a 2016 panel, for three reasons:
1. One of the very few differences between EZ1000 and EZ950 is that the latter is not as bright concerning hdr performance, and we all know that this year panels are brighter.
2. Some people reported the slight magenta tint on the EZ950; AFAIK no other 2017 Tv was reported to have been affected by that.
3. I cannot get a 1080p 120 Hz via pc even creating a custom resolution, and we already know that's possible on 2017 panels.
I could't get hdr to work on pc. I mean, I could get the hdr signal but couldn't get it to work with Netflix and YouTube. I don't have any games to try hdr right now. Besides, the Netflix app on the Tv is waaaaaay better than streaming Netflix via pc with its dedicated windows app. I watched an episode of 13 in UHD (don't know if it was Hdr too) and it was, in a word, stunning. Streaming it via pc the effect was not even close.
Good.
That's normal, with rear facing ports you can't use the cover. It's in the manual
HDR is mess not just on PC, it's a mess everywhere, I mean the setup process is totally not user friendly when even AV forum members are having problems. I still don't know why you need to turn on high bandwidthNormal mode - warm 2, I couldn't see any red tint on a completely white screen.
Hdr on pc I think it's still a big mess, not at all user friendly. I've ordered one of those rip-off 29g/s hdmi cable just to be 100% sure the 120hz and hdr things are not caused by poor cable quality. I'll let you know as soon as I get it
I did as you said but nope, no results. It may be the cable though, quite old. On nvidia colour settings I set rgb, full, 12 bit. On custom resolution I set 1920, 1080, 120 Hz and left untouched everything else. On console the hdr overall experience is a lot better, the console asks you if you wish to switch to hdr whenever it detects an hdr signal and that's it. Results vary from game to game but in general hdr is so freaking good. I can't imagine what we will achieve when we finally have 12bit panels and hdr+ or Dolby vision. Oooh, it will be beautifulHDR is mess not just on PC, it's a mess everywhere, I mean the setup process is totally not user friendly when even AV forum members are having problems. I still don't know why you need to turn on high bandwidth
Speaking of this, have you used HDMI 1 or 2 and enabled full bandwidth for the port? Maybe that's why you can't select 120Hz
Use HDMI 1 or 2. Picture Settings-> Option Settings -> Game mode on-> Pure direct 1080p on after scroll down to HDMI RGB range and select full or auto, normal doesn't give full bandwidth
All the 2017 panel characteristics are present with this TV so don't worry, it's 2017 panel.I did as you said but nope, no results. It may be the cable though, quite old. On nvidia colour settings I set rgb, full, 12 bit. On custom resolution I set 1920, 1080, 120 Hz and left untouched everything else. On console the hdr overall experience is a lot better, the console asks you if you wish to switch to hdr whenever it detects an hdr signal and that's it. Results vary from game to game but in general hdr is so freaking good. I can't imagine what we will achieve when we finally have 12bit panels and hdr+ or Dolby vision. Oooh, it will be beautiful
So guys, last night I played around with pc and ps4 and here's the report:
- I'm starting to suspect that these ez950s are equipped with a 2016 panel, for three reasons:
1. One of the very few differences between EZ1000 and EZ950 is that the latter is not as bright concerning hdr performance, and we all know that this year panels are brighter.
2. Some people reported the slight magenta tint on the EZ950; AFAIK no other 2017 Tv was reported to have been affected by that.
3. I cannot get a 1080p 120 Hz via pc even creating a custom resolution, and we already know that's possible on 2017 panels.
I could't get hdr to work on pc. I mean, I could get the hdr signal but couldn't get it to work with Netflix and YouTube. I don't have any games to try hdr right now. Besides, the Netflix app on the Tv is waaaaaay better than streaming Netflix via pc with its dedicated windows app. I watched an episode of 13 in UHD (don't know if it was Hdr too) and it was, in a word, stunning. Streaming it via pc the effect was not even close.
This site measured 680 nits for thr 55B7, 620nits for the 55EZ950, 640 nits for the EZ1000 and 685nits for the 65A1. I don't think that it's significant.1. Uk review highlighted a significant lower nits on pana versus all competition.