Panasonic EZ952 4K OLED TV owners and discussion thread

TvFan888

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That’s what I would like to think, but it is now superseded by the FZ950. The switch from the HCX2 to the HCX processor leaves me a bit concerned and makes me wonder if the outgoing processor had any issues as such. At the same time, Deluxe and other studios seem to have 60 of these sets. I hope the HDR10+ will come through to the EZ1002B via firmware ....?
Yes, 2017 oled models will get the HDR10+ update.
 

leeboy22001

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HDR10+ will probably be released for the ez series after the fz has been released
 

Jim Di Griz

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Andrew Lau

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Decided to see what benefit interpolation brings to 24 fps film... looked at some moving camera shots from Forrest Gump on Netflix.

without the interpolation on one can clearly see the 'natural' judder of the 24fps material if you focus on the edges of the frame.

With interpolation at "min" immediately the motion all across the picture is smooth and fault-free.

I suppose none of this is very surprising but I found it an interesting experiment. Will be leaving the interpolation setting at 'min' for 24 fps viewing as I don't detect SOE with it at that level. perhaps my sensitivity is low ..
 
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leeboy22001

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Decided to see what benefit interpolation brings to 24 fps film... looked at some moving camera shots from Forrest Gump on Netflix.

without the interpolation on one can clearly see the 'natural' judder of the 24fps material if you focus on the edges of the frame.

With interpolation at "min" immediately the motion all across the picture is smooth and fault-free.

I suppose none of this is very surprising but I found it an interesting experiment. Will be leaving the interpolation setting at 'min' for 24 fps viewing as I don't detect SOE with it at that level. perhaps my sensitivity is low ..
I found custom mode set to 5 (blur) and 2 (smooth) gave a good results on 24p material
 

thx75

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I came back! Happy New Year 2018 to all of you!! :)

I have to announce I had my EZ950 replaced with a new one S/N 761xxxx. It has the new fw installed, ver. 3.143xxxx270bxxxx as you can see here below:




It's now aged 50 hours (using slides too in order to speed up the process till 200 hours) and I can tell it's already almost VB free (the light magenta tinting on the right is just on the picture, not visible at naked eye):



Very happy to have that damn stutter issue definitely solved!! Of course just with IFC off, but I use it just while watching sports and it's flawless as always been with my previous set too.
 
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thx75

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55" :)
 

mako

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55 'have a much smaller problem with homogeneity than 65', but congratulations on a successful copy of the TV. Already after calibration? are you waiting 200-300h? What are your observations? Oled works better after 200-300 hours of work? I have such impressions ..., each of 7 pieces that I had so behaved ...

Below is my EZ1000E
 

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Will be leaving the interpolation setting at 'min' for 24 fps viewing as I don't detect SOE with it at that level. perhaps my sensitivity is low ..
Sadly, mine is high. I see IFC smoothing even with a custom setting of just 1.
 

s25003

Standard Member
Decided to see what benefit interpolation brings to 24 fps film... looked at some moving camera shots from Forrest Gump on Netflix.

without the interpolation on one can clearly see the 'natural' judder of the 24fps material if you focus on the edges of the frame.

With interpolation at "min" immediately the motion all across the picture is smooth and fault-free.

I suppose none of this is very surprising but I found it an interesting experiment. Will be leaving the interpolation setting at 'min' for 24 fps viewing as I don't detect SOE with it at that level. perhaps my sensitivity is low ..

Great :)
When you do this testing with 24 fps film. Are you running your TV in pure 24 fps mode which means 1. no 3:2 pulldown of 24 fps to 60 fps. 2. no inverse telecline from 60 fps material to 24 fps.

Only at pure 5:5 pulldown which means 24 fps repeats by the TV computer to 120hz you have the pure film mode.
I hope you tested in this mode.
 

thx75

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55 'have a much smaller problem with homogeneity than 65', but congratulations on a successful copy of the TV. Already after calibration? are you waiting 200-300h? What are your observations? Oled works better after 200-300 hours of work? I have such impressions ..., each of 7 pieces that I had so behaved ...

Below is my EZ1000E
Of course I'm going to calibrate by myself the panel but after 200 hours of aging (I have done just a rough 2P WB calibration for the time being) as Pana oleds go through three driving stages (A,B,C on the hours counter) and RGB and gamma tracking change. And in general it's better to age a little every oleds sets...

Considering your picture is at 5%, your panel seems quite good! :)
 

mako

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Of course I'm going to calibrate by myself the panel but after 200 hours of aging (I have done just a rough 2P WB calibration for the time being) as Pana oleds go through three driving stages (A,B,C on the hours counter) and RGB and gamma tracking change. And in general it's better to age a little every oleds sets...

Considering your picture is at 5%, your panel seems quite good! :)
Could you expand the topic of the voltage phases? Very interesting and would cover my observations as a layman :)

Yes, this panel is OK for 65 'and my earlier adventures with 6 LG screens in series E6 and E7 ...
 

fluxo

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I'm going to take a wild stab at Braveheart and Life of Pi but don't recognise the top one.

Great photos - what setup was used?
The top one was from a Pioneer blu ray demo, IIRC:


@ ~ 3 mins 20.
 

mjw1999

Active Member
It’s nice to hear someone from the inside talk about the stutter issue and confirm they are working on it.
“HOPEFULLY we will have a fix soon”
Not exactly reassuring words.
 

thx75

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However, Star Trek Discovery ( FHD with HDR) is a complete mess. It looks oversaturated, has colour noise and colour grain. I m not sure if the director intended that to happen. Skin tones also exhibit colour noise. Anyone else noticed this too?
Me too. ST Discovery in HDR is simply UNWATCHABLE. Very bad picture quality. :confused:
 
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mjw1999

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Diplomatic words, also the open acknowledgment means we have a come back if no fix is found. It’s a win win.
Admit it though, you miss the Panasonic don’t you?
It was a beautiful set, I loved it. However I couldn't live with the stutter and was sick of sending them back. I'm hoping Panasonic sort the issues out as I'm in the market for a 2018 model and would like to audition the 65FZ950 for our Garden Room along with the other manufacturers offerings later in the summer to replace my Panasonic 47wt50, which has been a cracker.
 
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thx75

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Appears to be brighter and more depth to the image.
It is indeed! ;)
Aging after the first 200 hours panels increases peak luminance by 3-4% with both SDR and HDR and gamma tracking is a little bit lower, mostly between 0 and 30 IRE.
I observed the same behavior in all sets I have calibrated.
 

thx75

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JimBobRude

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It is indeed! ;)
Aging after the first 200 hours panels increases peak luminance by 3-4% with both SDR and HDR and gamma tracking is a little bit lower, mostly between 0 and 30 IRE.
I observed the same behavior in all sets I have calibrated.
My subjective impressions of my EZ were that the saturation of colours seemed to settle and the near black gamma seemed to lift. For my first 50 hours of use or so I had to have gamma at 2.3 otherwise the blacks seems crushed. Now it’s looks perfect at 2.4 gamma. Of course this could of been more my eyes/brain adapting but it’s nice to see you have measured what I perceived.
 

thx75

Active Member
Sadly, mine is high. I see IFC smoothing even with a custom setting of just 1.
The same here, I cannot move from off otherwise I notice SOE immediately. :(
 

thx75

Active Member
My subjective impressions of my EZ were that the saturation of colours seemed to settle and the near black gamma seemed to lift. For my first 50 hours of use or so I had to have gamma at 2.3 otherwise the blacks seems crushed. Now it’s looks perfect at 2.4 gamma. Of course this could of been more my eyes/brain adapting but it’s nice to see you have measured what I perceived.
Yes, saturations improve too. You are right with your feeling with better near black, but gamma tracking is not lifting, it's going down in order to have more details showed. ;)
 

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