Panasonic EZ1002 4K OLED TV Review & Comments

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    1. Steve Withers

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      £6500 and no Dolby Vision support, why on earth anyone would buy this over the Sony is beyond me. Once again Panasonic seem determined to charge silly money, hopefully those that fell for it with the cz952 and got burned have learnt their lesson and give this a wide berth, it's an impressive performance there's no doubt about that but £1500 better than the Sony and sacrifice DV, sorry Panasonic I don't think so...
       
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      Because there are enthusiasts that appreciate the best picture quality possible on a domestic set.

      I would choose this over anything if money wouldn't be a problem.
      In terms of future proofing it will be a mistake for sure :)
       
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      £6.5k and NOT reference....:eek:

      Oled seems stuck at 650 nits and not capable of the Best HDR, LCD can do HDR but has not so good blacks simple choice I suppose...but not one I'm prepared to make for now
       
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      I agree, £1000 more for a marginal difference to sony's A1? No Dolby Vision? Sound which is better on the Sony A1 vs a detachable proprietary connection soundbar? I bet with further calibration you could get them to look the same anyway, I also bet most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It just makes sense to spend less money for more features! Also, only one size of 65" and the A1 has 55", 65" and 77". Panasonic are crazy to charge that price. This advanced CMS that is built in is only appealing to a niche community of video nerds, the rest will not be able to justify this extra expense. The operating system is dying! With no developers wanting to make apps for it... *facepalm

      Don't even get me started on the lesser model, now that's the same price as the Sony but again offers much less than the Sony, so now you have no decent sound option, no absolute black filter?? Again no DV etc.

      WHY CAN'T Pansonic ever design the back of their TV properly either? Its always got the HDMI's facing backwards making it awkward for wall mounting! (Two HDMI's and Two USB's Digital Optical & Ethernet are all backwards facing) Another plus for Sony with all facing down!
       
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      Calibration don't do wonders.
      Simply measuring a few points doesn't mean it's tracking as it should in other areas.
      The TV has internal 3dLUT. Controls are doing what they are supposed to do (probably) but there''s no reason to calibrate it as it is almost perfect OTB.

      Let's be serios. It is the best TV available and I'm sure it is much better than CZ950 which was "reference".

      But... after all these years: BANDING??? what the fudge LG!
       
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      Why do people keep banging on about DV as if it's some kind of revolution over HDR? Streaming in the US has been around for a few years now with DV and no-one is raving about it. There might be some content coming soon on disc but with a OLED are you even going to get the best out of it compared to an LCD display?

      I await with interest to see if anyone can spot the difference between HDR and DV - it's not even that a DV disc will have no HDR!

      Next year will no doubt bring another new tech and all these TV's will be 'old hat' again. Must be frustrating for the serial returners who go through about 10 TVs a year looking for the 'perfect' one.
       
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      I suspect some units that are sent out for reviews are handpicked but so far all have banding anyway. Ridiculous money for the crap we get.
       
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      I would have liked a video on this tv.
       
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      I agree. If the sets that are hand picked for reviews even have banding then I dread to think what crap they ship to the regular consumer :eek:
       
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      I'm sure 1 will be available very soon.
       
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      We are really sorry there is no video for you right away. We took the view that Steve should get the written review live as soon as possible as there is a great deal of interest in it. As such Steve has worked all weekend to make sure he spent the right amount of time with it and get the review finished for this evening. The videos will be done this coming week and available, like the review, free of charge to watch. ;)

      As for hand picked TVs this is a myth spread by some other review sites/ reviewers to try and look important and spread FUD. We test TVs from Manufacturers and in the field with actual owners and there are no major differences that suggest such a practice goes on. In fact we often find issues with the samples that manufacturers have missed and engineers have come out to check our results. There is too much to lose for such a practice to take place and I'd like to think we would spot any underhand tactics. Of course that goes against the forum conspiracy theories ;) We review these items for you the reader and member of the forums in an honest and transparent manner and we have no other agenda than that.
       
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      Sounds like Panasonic haven't learnt from their first OLED where the HDR picture was very dark. The Oleds this year have been disappointing so far and just two discs show HDR off at its best - not good.
       
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      tell me about it, and it gets a 9! /headscratching!
       
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      @Steve Withers superb review as always.
      Any early indication that pana future proofed towards hdmi 2.1?

      Can you also help us close this hdr10 vs dv debate. How penalising could it be for pana not having it ? Assuming it takes off slowly but surely?

      That reduced brightness is disturbing considering the competition performance with same panels
       
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      Good honest review though Steve - thanks!
       
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      Really think some are way too lenient and nice about this. Should a product that costs £6500 get a 9/10 when it cant display football/dark content without ugly vertical bands? No way. More like 7/10. Hope at one point they can improve uniformity atleast a little bit.
       
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      Who said that? Did you read the review and understand what was being said?
       
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      Banding during football has been mentioned plenty of times in reviews now not only on avforums, yes obviously there are people that don't have this issue when watching football but i was just hoping this wasnt an issue at all with these prices. I don't expect perfection but it would be nice being able to watch darker content and football without having to worry.
       
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      No news on HDMI 2.1 support I'm afraid. As for DV, once some discs have been released and the Oppo has been updated I'll compare HDR10 to DV. I suspect that DV's dynamic metadata will add most value with less capable displays so it might be useful for OLED with its limited brightness and especially projectors. As far as the brightness of the EZ1002 compared to the A1 is concerned, the difference might be down to the filter. LG did say that the panels arrive from LG Display without filters and in that state they could push the peak brightness to nearly 1,000nits uncalibrated but that the reflections were just unacceptable.
       
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      Oled brightness limitations means they aren't preferred in my daytime viewings over a Sony ZD or EX model etc and I would henceforth draw a line on paying 6k.
      With Oled as a second night time TV mystress is more my thing even if it means spending more.An LG Oled C model will do nicely with lots of change.
      The bigger the Oled screen the more exposed and palpable they are to screen issues.

      A 'low nit' Oled TV in daytime viewing with scenes of high brightness and flat even lighting expose the reasons why Samsung is sticking to its QD TV guns.Oleds just doesn't hit you in daytime with the sheer impact 'colour volume' that it does in night scenes.
       
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      Music to my ears :) : "We found that that the EZ1000 was the best OLED we have tested to date when it comes to reproducing detail just above black and the image was also free of any of the macro-blocking that had plagued near black images on last year’s LG OLEDs."
       
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      Merci Steve, thats a very clean answer and very logical

      I wonder if the pana little brother is going to perform better as NO FiLTER

      Hope pana is reading this Steve and I hope also that they consider dv NOW. I really don't care about Dolby but low nits TVs like oled really need a dynamic metadata handling approach

      I know that pana implemented very clever stuff in their blu ray that can help the HDR mapping and performance in different environnement. But it will stay a TWEAKING !!!

      Hope they add DV as whatever they do, it will remain a perceived weakness (I very much expect hdr10 vs dv test to show much better results for the latter with oled...)
       
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      Intresting tv :cool: but it not one for me of the DV situation.
       
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      The EZ952 will still have a filter even if it isn't the Absolute Black Filter.
       
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      @Steve Withers £6499? Think you'll find rrp is £6999, check the TPS and Sonic Direct websites for example.
       
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      We get it! Any TV without DV is of no interest to you. Why do you feel the need to post?

      Hopefully the review of its little brother will be out soon.

      Thanks for the review
       
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      Only from PQ point-of-view, can EZ1002's price be justified over dx902b?

      I really appreciate your reviews Steve - they are very objective indeed :)
       
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      Anyone is free to post what they like. :smashin:
       
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      Great review Steve, appreciate all the work to give us a nice Sunday evening surprise.

      Not sure after reading this glowing review why I was slightly disappointed, what does a manufacturer have to do :) I guess I had hoped it would be reference and therefore the EZ952 should at a lower price be up there with it, making the decision between it and the A1 slightly easier.

      I keep telling myself to ignore the lack of DV and possibly not as bright HDR picture as the vast majority of my content will be HD and as I don't have any other references I guess wouldn't notice too much. But I have trouble doing so.

      Looking forward to the more affordable EZ952 review / owners reviews

      While I hope we all get band free oled's I'm hoping/wondering if it's a repeat of last year and we will see the 55" with better uniformity.

      How did the OS feel, I saw another video and it looked pretty good, nice and snappy through the menus?
       
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