In my local store yesterday comparing the Panny DMR-EX87 and Sony HXD970 and noticed that if you try and use the EPG on the Panny to record a programme that has just started it will not record so you have to select the right channel use the instant record button and then set the record period by which time you've missed the bus into town! With the Sony you could use the EPG without any problem once a programme had started. I was only "playing" in the shop and can anyone confirm this is the case or is there a workaround. The salesman didn't have a clue ( surprise surprise ). Also is it true that the digital tuner in the Panny is better than the one in the Sony? These two factors will influence which one I buy (unless I toss a coin!).