I thought I'd post a few impressions as these DVD players represent good value for money and have a bit of a reputation for being pretty good all rounders. First up - the Limit. I bought one of the first ones, when they were being offered here on the forums with 20% off - cost me £160.00! At the time I didn't have a projector, so the unit was being fed via component into my Toshiba 36" TV. Image quality was pretty good, although obviously I was unable to take advantage of its progressive scan abilities. I was most impressed with its CD playing abilities - the Limit is "Tuned by Cyrus" and is excellent... for a DVD player. I sold that particular unit - my wife preferred the look of our Sony NSP900V However, when I ended up with my Panny AE700 PJ, I decided that I would try out the Limit again... especially as it was now available for £100.00. Image quality using the Vaddis 5 chipset in the Limit seemed to be preferable to the PJ's deinterlacing abilities and image quality was pretty good, but I definitely wanted more! Enter the Panasonic DVD97S. First up - it's immediately evident that the Panny's CD playing abilities are nowhere near the Limit's, and this unit sounds emminently mediocre in comparison. Even movie soundtracks sound more involving and precise with the Limit. Plug in the HDMI lead and set things up using DVE and Avia and the Panny's quality begins to really shine. Feed this thing a quality transfer and you really get an outstanding picture. Everything is so clean! Star Wars AOTC for instance looks simply superb - vibrant, noise free and detailed. Even less than top notch transfers look better than usual! The only area where the Panny could be better is in the area of macroblocking - it suffers slightly, but this really isn't too much of an issue, and the Limit appears to have the Chroma Upsampling Error bug. So, when the Philips 963 became available at £100.00 I couldn't resist. I'd read a lot about this player and was eager to find out if it could still compete in the ever changing world of DVD players. I hooked things up... and was immediately impressed with the DVD loading tray - very smooth! But I was most interested in its DVD playing - and in this area I was a little unimpressed... until I figured out a few things and tweaked settings - True Life for instance. Having this set to anymore than 1 creates jaggies in my system, so I turned this down to zero. DCDi is set to on, and once I'd run DVE and played AOTC again I began to warm to the Philly. In fact, I would say I prefer the image that the Philly gives over the Panny - with one, major, proviso. As long as the transfer is immaculate the 963 displays a really superb, lifelike image. Anything less than a top notch transfer and the Philly is quite unforgiving - things look a lot rougher than when view using the Panny! Audio wise - I love this DVD player, which provides rich, detailed and and smmoth-sounding music. I prefer this to the Limit, which in comparison sounds a little "mechanical". I would imagine this is a "horses for courses" feeling, though. So, in a nutshell - Best picture 1. Panasonic DVD97 2. Philips DVD963 3. Limit DVD900SE Best movie sound 1. Limit 2. Philips 3. Panasonic Best CD sound 1. Philips 2. Limit 3. Panasonic In a nutshell - the Limit is an all round bargain. The Philips has excellent sound and can ouput a superb image, but less than immaculate transfers look a lot less than immaculate! And the Panny has pretty poor CD playing abilities, more than reasonable (but not superb) digital sound with movies, and can display a superb image when utilising HDMI output. The only one I wouldn't want to be without would be the Panasonic.