quiet robert
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But in terms of picture quality, is it a worthwhile upgrade?
Done the same by way of a UB820. Worth it if you have a need for Dolby Vision or HDR10+.Hi folks , I’m thinking of upgrading from a panny ub700 to this, anyone else done the same , and can tell me if it’s worth the upgrade?
Thanks
Done the same by way of a UB820. Worth it if you have a need for Dolby Vision or HDR10+.
UB700-->UB820 gives same PQ improvement as UB700-->UB9000.
The UB9000 has better build and better audio from the analogue outs but picture wise is much the same as the UB820 so if budget is an issue just go with the cheaper one.
Either would be an improvement over the UB700 for projector use due to both having HDR Optimiser which can tone map high nits UHDs down to the lower nits output that PJs have.
great stuff. Would the HDR optimiser also give an advantage in the short term if being used with a LED tv?
While playing an atmos disc click on the red button of the X8500 remote and check (and change if necessary) that the audio playback mode is set to Atmos/ DSur. X8500 stores audio playback mode by input and also operates on a last used basis.Can anyone help me out? I’ve just bought one of these on this very forum and plugged it in to my Denon x8500.
The issue I’m having is a lack of atmos being indicated anywhere.
Yesterday it was plugged into my previous Denon 6500 and my 4K avengers assemble was outputting atmos without issue.
Now the Denon 8500 is only showing Dolby True HD from the UB9000 but has no problem playing atmos from Apple TV playing Netflix.
I’ve searched this issue and found a few suggestions for UB9000 set up changes but none has solved the problem.
I’ll admit that I don’t fully understand what most of these set up options are so might repeat them back inaccurately.
I turned off upmixing to 7.1, I also turned off secondary Blu-ray audio out.
all digital audio out is set to bitstream.
when looking at the data info during the film it states true hd audio, there is no option for an atmos soundtrack, only 7.1 true hd, as if an atmos soundtrack isn’t availabledespite having chosen atmos from the disc’s top menu,
I did read that someone had reset their different Panasonic player and all was well by pressing a combination of buttons but I don’t think my attempts to do the same thing were successful in performing a reset.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
While playing an atmos disc click on the red button of the X8500 remote and check (and change if necessary) that the audio playback mode is set to Atmos/ DSur. X8500 stores audio playback mode by input and also operates on a last used basis.
Atmos is never shown on the player (it doesn't have an atmos decoder), only on the decoding AVR.
You can check the input stream being received on the X8500 and the audio playback mode in force by using the Info button on the X8500 remote.
The UB9000, like all other players, will never show that atmos is being sent out.thanks for the tip. I’m assessing atmos or not from the display on the 8500. The info button on the 9000 seems to be showing that atmos isn’t being sent out.
i may try swapping the hdmi input between the 9000 and the ATV since I know the ATV’s DD output is atmos encoded and the receiver is recognizing it.
None of what you are suggesting will make much, if any, difference to the letter box blooming you get unless you are making changes which have an equivalent effect of turning down the TV backlight i.e. dim the picture down so that it isn't anywhere near as bright and thus not have so much light spreading into the letterbox areas.Anyone have any suggestions with regard to the HDR picture presets and using them in certain conditions?
I realize that the default "Standard" setting (on the UB9000 itself) is best for darker rooms in evening/night environments, which is why I use it because those are our conditions, but does going higher on these presets (which basically increases the Dynamic Range Adjuster slider by certain notches, I know) benefit darker conditions at all? Would going to, say, Natural Environment bring any benefit to a dark room experience, or would this just elevate blacks more?
Here's why I ask: Using my Samsung edge-lit panel the player is connected to, I experience horrible blooming into the letterbox areas of scope films, due to the display pushing the light so hard (backlight and contrast on max, etc., by auto default when the TV senses an HDR signal) and rather than try and tweak anything at the display end (which doesn't seem to alleviate the blooming unless I drop the backlight down to a ridiculously low number, thus negating the point of HDR), I was thinking of attempting some adjustments on the Panny.
If I keep the HDR mode on Standard, would playing around with the System Gamma or perhaps the Dynamic Range Adjuster help with the blooming? Perhaps going negative on the DRA? Or is this not advised?
I was also thinking of adjusting the Black Tone Curve, but someone advised me this will just shift the entire image's black tone in one direction; is this true?
Photo of the full OSD while playing an atmos disc and using the X8500 remote Info button or the red button would be useful to see what signal is being received and what playback mode is active.Still not working:
Anyone have any suggestions with regard to the HDR picture presets and using them in certain conditions?
I realize that the default "Standard" setting (on the UB9000 itself) is best for darker rooms in evening/night environments, which is why I use it because those are our conditions, but does going higher on these presets (which basically increases the Dynamic Range Adjuster slider by certain notches, I know) benefit darker conditions at all? Would going to, say, Natural Environment bring any benefit to a dark room experience, or would this just elevate blacks more?
Here's why I ask: Using my Samsung edge-lit panel the player is connected to, I experience horrible blooming into the letterbox areas of scope films, due to the display pushing the light so hard (backlight and contrast on max, etc., by auto default when the TV senses an HDR signal) and rather than try and tweak anything at the display end (which doesn't seem to alleviate the blooming unless I drop the backlight down to a ridiculously low number, thus negating the point of HDR), I was thinking of attempting some adjustments on the Panny.
If I keep the HDR mode on Standard, would playing around with the System Gamma or perhaps the Dynamic Range Adjuster help with the blooming? Perhaps going negative on the DRA? Or is this not advised?
I was also thinking of adjusting the Black Tone Curve, but someone advised me this will just shift the entire image's black tone in one direction; is this true?
Hi folks , I’m thinking of upgrading from a panny ub700 to this, anyone else done the same , and can tell me if it’s worth the upgrade?
Thanks
Where you have True HD +Dsur I have Atmos/Dsur so I don't know what's going down...This one?
From memory, so may not be totally accurate: HDMI | Advanced | Digital Audio output.I read elsewhere the 7.1 upmixing should be off but I’ll try it.
I’ve been using the avengers assemble 4K disc throughout. I’ll try a second disc.
X8500 was installed yesterday from new, firmware updated. Can confirm atmos works when using ATV as a source.
can you remind me where secondary audio is in menu? I recall seeing it but have been looking around menus for a while but can’t remember where. I had previously turned it off though.
The UB9000 will always say True HD for atmos soundtracks so that is a red herring.I’ve now tried a different hdmi input - no change
I’ve switched to the matrix 4K where I had to enable the Atmos sound tracks and got what looked like a Blu-ray encoded on screen confirmation of the atmos sound track.
still have 8500 days DD THD and 9000 playback info on screen display still says True HD.
I’m beginning to lose faith.