Panasonic DMRES20 DVD recorder - Is it being replaced?

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  1. gary9407

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    I'm really tempted to buy this DVD recorder because you can now pick it up for less that £150. For me it's only missing one thing and that's a DV input because I recently purchased a camcorder. Does anyone know if this model is being replaced like the DMRES10 has been recently with the DMRES15? This new machine has a DV input but no freeview and rumour has it no RGB in. I would hope a replacement for the DMRES20 would have freeview, RGB in and DV in. Maybe there is an alternative machine out there with these features together with the Chasing playback and Pausing live TV functions?
     
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    ....... and you can take it that the replacement for the ES20D will be a lot more than £150. At a guess - more than £200. So if you think the DV socket is worth say an extra £70 then so be it.
     
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    Yeah it's the DMR-EZ25 which has a DV-input, SD card slot, HDMI output with upscaling and now supports recording on DVD+RW as well as all of the others.
     
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    DMR-ES15 is priced $179 in USA & £179 in UK. My guess is that DMR-EZ25 will be at least £249 in UK, since the ES25 is $229 in USA and it doesn't have a digital Tuner.

    Panasonic UK is a RIP off merchant, there is no need for the substantial mark-up against the equivalent US model's Retail Selling Price. You should get a 20% discount from on-line retailers when supplies are ample, so expect an on-line price for DMR-EZ25 of £200.:hiya:
     
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    Hi there DRAMBO.

    I hope you have sent Panasonic a copy of that.
     
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    Sounds a bit harsh as they are still on par with Sony and the like. Even the ES15 is the same if not cheaper than all other well known brands as the entry level model (excluding un-named Tesco type stuff).
    I think it has a lot to do with mass buying and selling though, as the number of sales in the UK is tiny compared to the US, so less profit.
     
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    DMR-ES15 is available Europe -wide, so volume production should be the same as for the US, but as usual Europeans get ripped off. There is no Justification for the £70 mark up in the UK(US price £109 approx).:nono:
     
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    I would agree, but from personal experience I know that CE manufacturers are run as seperate entities (spelling?) in different countries. The UK company (Panasonic UK) will not buy as many as Panasonic Japan, America, Australia etc. which is why they are always cheaper than in the UK. We also get stiched up with 17.5% tax which is one of the highest around.

    Panasonic is no exception to pricing issues though, as they all suffer from the same problems since the only manufacturing in the UK is with microwave ovens.
     
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    Thanks for the advice and info about the forthcoming DMR-EZ25. It sounds great so I'll just have to wait a bit longer before I enter the world of DVD recording. Looks pretty good too in the link below.

    http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/diga/europe/lineup/uk/comparison.html

    Another question, what are the benefits of the DV input when connecting a camcorder? Without it you would just use an AV connection which should still give good picture and sound quality.
     
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    I really like the EX95V but at £649 I think its a bit too pricey. I really want to have a VHS deck so I can save space and get rid of my current VHS. So I might get the EZ45V at £299, hopefully cheaper online.

    Why do the VHS DVD Recorders look so ugly, its really annoying! Also does it have RGB in?
     
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    If you think that the VHS/DVD recorders look ugly - why buy one? Wouldn't you be better buying the DMR-EX75 for £399 (or less) and use a separate VHS until you obsolete it (copy stuff onto DVD-R). It depends what you want it for but the hard disk will give you a lot more editing power over the 45V.
     
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    I bought this dvd recorder just this week but i,am having trouble getting it
    tuned up with my satellite receiver and sky receiver, perhaps some of the
    members on these forums could give me some advice on how to connect
    the cables up properly to receive and record on the Panasonic.
    The most surprising thing that i found out from Panasonic this week on the
    DMR ES20D, is that you cannot open or close the dvd drawer with the remote
    control device as this has to be done manually by pushing a button at the
    front of the dvd recorder. i will look forward to help and advice from the
    membership.
     
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    Thats true but my parents have a lot of old films which I really can't be bothered to copy to DVD. The 75 is still pricey at £399, but I will also have Sky+HD.
     
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    vergil777 wrote: The most surprising thing that i found out from Panasonic this week on the DMR ES20D, is that you cannot open or close the dvd drawer with the remote control device as this has to be done manually by pushing a button at the front of the dvd recorder

    You can close the drawer by pressing play, but like you I find it frustrating that you can't instruct it to open while you are still sitting down, and it is then ready (to remove the disc) by the time you get over to the machine (as is the case with my Wharfedale player)

    Impatient lot are'nt we :devil:
     
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    That's 'cos the kids keep opening the drawer from the remote and then sit on the drawer snapping it off.
    Have you noticed how the front flaps on their TV's now open upwards 'cos people keep snapping them off when they open downwards. It's kind of nice to know that Panny think like that as I've not managed to break anything so far since buying Panny.
     
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    They would be the same people who close their Coffee Cup Holders on their PCs, spilling the drink.....:nono:
     

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