Panasonic 4K Picture Quality meets Hollywood Standards

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    1. Phil Hinton

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      Phil, i love it when the forums publish a really interesting report like this on a friday, you should do that all the time..and call it something for the weekend ... cant read it now as im in work, but i look forward to reading it. keep up the good work.
       
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      Interesting article. However given the content that I like to watch, how good is the motion handling?
       
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      I read in a german article that Panasonic also gave a glimpse into future Panasonic TV's. Is that true? And are they referring to OLED? Or are you guys not allowed to talk about that (yet)? Just a yes/no would be enough. ;)
       
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      Can't say anything, sorry.
       
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      Rumours are that the Oled will launch later this year, September ish, and it will be a curved 65'' model.


      But Panasonic have been launching a Oled for the last 2 years so you never no, it might not come.
       
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      It was good to read that plasma was used because of the accuracy, and having the GT60 I am so pleased with mine. Does anybody know if plasma has been beaten by a Panasonic LED yet? I was not impressed with he the ax900 because my son is a on line gamer.
      I am very reluctant to make the change for a small improvement, the GT60 is fantastic in every way and the 3d is out of this world.
      Will any of this year's Panasonic range clearly beat the quantity of their plasma?
      I am not talking slight improvement, but big improvements to justify the cost. Or are we still a year or two away.
      Any feedback would be appreciated
       
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      Simple answer is no, black levels still can't be beaten, SD content looks better on a plasma, motion is still probably better on a plasma too, but 4K looks bloody good and that's one thing a plasma can't do for me.
       
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      No problem, guess that at least confirms that there's something that Panasonics wants you to absolutely keep secret until IFA. Annoying NDA. :mad:
      Just to let you know September 2nd is the day that the german site mentioned as when they plan to reveal the info regarding Panasonic's upcoming TV plans.
      It better be a 4K OLED with HDMI 2.0a/proper HDR support.

      Yeah, german model name probably is 65CZW954 (so UK would be 65CZ952?). The name started appearing on Panasonic price lists, but we're still waiting for official confirmation that it's a 4K OLED and not another 4K LED TV with FALD.

      And that's why I am still careful, whatever the rumors say. It would be so disappointing if at IFA Panasonic showed another batch of prototype OLED's instead of models ready to be sold.
       
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      We was promised a plasma beating led last year aX902, which was not up to the expectations. So what are we getting this year and next more of the same?
      I think Panasonic has lost the plot since stoping plasma, don't think they can improve on that with the led range this year or ever. OLED still has issues, its poor in SD upscaling when HD channels are not available and any old movie/programme recording you may have. I have tested this on this years 4k TVS but not the CX802 yet
       
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      It's all good panny saying we want our TVs to be true to the director vision, but out the box this isn't going to happen and most consumers won't pay for a professional collaborator, must consumers happy with dynamic mode and think this is the best.
       
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      Great report Phil.

      Any videos from the trip to THX coming?

      You lucky bugger!:)
       
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      You fudgeing jammy bastards, getting a tour of the old ILM facility and the ranch and so on.
       
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      Panasonic won't meet my standards until they deliver a combination of their clever processing with an OLED display. Until then what Hollywood thinks is irrelevant. Meantime, despite being a long-time Panasonic fan, I am enjoying my LG 930 and thinking that my next upgrade will be to a 4k LG OLED when the price becomes sensible, mostly to get full HD on passive 3D. Blacks turned into greys and more pixels than I can otherwise have zero appeal.
       
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      Once u had a Oled its no going back.... Hope Panasonic will be out with one as they might "fix" a few of the Issues still left on oleds.
       
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      Hope so buy they won't be making the screen, so some issues may still be present.
       
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      Good question - are the motion handling issues of LG OLEDs a function of the panel technology or the processing? Likewise with HDR - this needs OLED to be really useful IMHO, but is there some reason why OLED can only handle fewer gradations or can it be sorted out with software?

      It sounds like LG have improved the colour uniformity issues that my 930 is supposed to have (but which I cannot see in normal viewing) with the 2015 panels already.
       
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      I think it's important to read the comments in context.

      The 'as the director intended' comments are clearly about colour accuracy.

      You can ensure that you're creating a digital master with accurate colours even if blacks are dark grey and motion handling is average.

      I understand that Phil and the team can't talk about whether/when Panny are releasing an OLED. To change the subject completely, when are you thinking of buying your next TV, Phil?

      Steve W
       
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      There are no problems with OLED motion handling.
       
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      Gotta say, there's a fair bit of marketing going on here. They can talk about accuracy all they want but you will never get an LCD to correctly display a range of colours at high/low brightness in the same cell at the same time.

      That's why Panny will launch the OLED at IFA.
       
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      Phil. You can now get a camera(Sony F65) that can record rec2020, a transmission system that can transfer rec2020 (despite Joe Kane saying it was impossible/wouldn't work) and standards that can downscale from rec2020 to whatever the TV can display (and the TVs are going to get closer and closer).
      Are you still confident in your prediction that we won't get rec2020 for 10 years?

      I see no technical reason to stop it if a TV/movie producer wants to.

      Interesting to note that Gamma 2.2 is used for HD in the Video, BT1886 for 4k only (and that'll hopefully die once PQ is in place)
       
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      Really nice interview and it all sounds very promising.

      By the way, I couldn't help but notice the different frog colours here:

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      That is not to say I am concluding anything from that.
       

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