Due to the lack of stock of the 42PV500's and no-one really knowing when they'll arrive I've started looking elsewhere due to sheer frustration. The 42PHD8 looks like a good bet but obviously these (and any other non-tuner based plasma) are going to be hard to demo. It's hard enough to demo the 42PV500 in a proper environment ! Does anyone have an opinion? I've had a 50" Panasonic plasma monitor (not TV) before a few years ago and the picture quality was spectacular and I havn'r seen anything since that rivals it. You don't actaully need a tuner based screen with Freeview / Sky etc. Look forward to your opinions.