PAL disk NTSC Progressive out

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  1. Stimpy

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    Have just got my Pioneer 565A and was wondering.
    What is the effect of playing PAL disks using NTSC progressive out.
    I.e. will there be bigger libsync issues, will the picture be squashed or stretched???

    Havn't had time to set it up yet but any advise would be welcome.
     
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    I don't think it will work but you may try it out. Let us know how it went.
     
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    The manual with the player says that PAL disks can be played with NTSC progressive out.
    Confused me as well
     
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    I'd imagine it throws away the extra PAL lines and repeats frames to get from 576 lines @50Hz to 480 Lines @60Hz

    Might look OK but might look nasty and jerky

    Phil
     
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    My Toshiba SD900 can do this. It converts PAL to NTSC and then outputs this progressively. Unfortunately it looks crap and has nasty combing effects all over the image. :( Other players may make a better job of it though.
     
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    The 565A will play them in progressive mode, but you'll notice dropped frames.
     
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    Oh well. No progressive mode for me
     
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    surely you'll get repeated frames rather than dropped ones ?

    You have 25 PAL frames to fit into 30 NTSC refreshes - so the easiest thing would be to duplicate a frame every 5 refreshes

    It may well look nasty though, try it and see

    Phil

    [edit] I have of course assumed it will create each of the 25 PAL frames first and the convert them to NTSC output rather than some other way of doing it
     
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    It could well be duplicated frames (I'd not thought of that), but the picture gets 'jittery', especially noticeable during fast movement. Tis jerkiness looks like dropped frames, but could well be due to frames being repeated now I think of it.
     

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