OSMC Vero 4K Media Streamer Review & Comments

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    1. Mark Hodgkinson

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      Imo a very flawed and even useless device - no proper 3D, no Blu-ray menus, no Gigabit Ethernet (therefore, almost useless for playing files from NAS - as the vast majority of non-physical-discs enthusiasts do).

      Dune 4K Solo is still the best, given how little true 4K content there is. For anything streaming - or, for that matter, for Kodi fanatics - Nvidia Shield makes circles around this box
       
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      I'm currently running OSMC on a Raspberry Pi2. Uses my TV's remote via CEC and generally works great.

      Sadly the Pi2 has no hardware HEVC decoder and uses the CPU to decode this content via software. While the A7 CPU is powerful enough to decode my SD and 1280x720 HEVC/X265 files, Full HD is a bridge too far.

      I've looked into a Pi3 as an upgrade - same CPU as the Pi2, but running at 1.2GHz, 300MHz faster than the Pi2 - but this is still not powerful enough to play back Full HD HEVC/X265 files.

      I've tried the lastest Amazon FireTV, installed Kodi only to find it cannot play back my 23.976 rips without stutter. Sent it back after a long weekend of trying to make things work.

      Last week I bought a Nvidia Shield, installed Kodi from the Play Store (much more straight forward than the Fire TV install), and it plays everything I have to test on it. I didn't know about the Vero 4K then or I'd have bought one straight away.
       
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      There is 3d - although just SBS for now but frame-packed is coming. You don't need anything like gigabit ethernet for Blu-ray from NAS, which the Vero does easily by the way. Blu-ray menus are very much a preference thing - personally, I just want the movie to play.

      How does the SHIELD run rings round it, KODI wise, exactly?
       
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      Thanks for the review! I'm currently running OSMC on a Pi3 and, as Navvie mentioned, it struggles with anything above 720p in HEVC. I've been flipping between the Shield and the Vero 4K for ages now, but I'm a big fan of OSMC's community support and debian as a platform so I'll probably go for that now.
       
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      Looks exactly like my Pi2, which I've had running OSMC for over a year as my only media player, but has support for UHD and HEVC content. All my DVDs and Blu-Rays rips are just the main title (or titles for TV discs), with English audio and subtitles (including commentaries and foreign audio where the English is a dub). No need for the animated menus and unskippable content that I find so frustrating.

      Bit rate of my rips is always far, far, less than 100mbps so the lack of Gb ethernet isn't presently a concern. Who know about the future though.

      PS. Thanks for the review, Mark.
       
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      If you don't need the other things SHIELD has to offer - and don't get me wrong, I love my SHIELD - as a KODI device, I think the VERO 4K is better.
       
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      If this had Gigabit Ethernet i would buy it straight away (and i have a 2 x shields in the house). Looks to be a nice low maintenance Kodi box, which is certainly not to be sniffed as the little updates and hacks to solve issues can be a pain with other generic boxes. I'm not keen on another Android box as android kodi support seems more limited (even with SPMC which is still on Jarvis).

      I would mostly only use it for 1080p from a NAS. Any issues with playing full bluray rips from a NAS during testing for the review?
       
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      Thanks for the review - rather daftly I didn't realise it could run TVH server, so it's perfect for me.

      Just wondering - what will you be watching that requires gigabit? The few true rips of 4k blus don't come close to needing it.
       
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      No, Jon, it played them with ease.
       
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      I only use the Pi3 for OSMC and a few other debian packages so the Vero would be a great direct upgrade I think. My TV has better apps for Netflix and Amazon Video than the Shield currently has so I'm not missing much there (not bothered by the gaming stuff either), and it's more expensive.

      If you need the other Shield bits then it would make a lot more sense for sure.
       
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      How are they better on your TV? And what TV is it?
       
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      I'd rather have it just in case and not need it, than need it and not have it :) Just seems an odd choice when gigabit ethernet is so prevalent elsewhere.

      I think i may give this box a try though - i get fed up spending too much time tweaking rather than enjoying stuff and due to the support this looks very hassle free.
       
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      TV is an LG OLEDB7, apps support Dolby Vision.
       
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      I can easily stream full Blu-ray rips over the 10/100 ethernet on the RPi3 without issue, so the Vero 4K will have no problem either. If you're worried, pick up a cheap USB Gigabit adapter. Voila.
       
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      I'm a non-physical disc enthusiast myself. 1. I hate Blu-ray menus. I rip the main title only along with the main HD audio track. 2. Whenever I've tested full Blu-ray rips over 10/100 ethernet they've played without issue on my RPi3. There's plenty of bandwidth (and fewer problems than I've seen with some gigabit devices). 3. 3D is partially supported and will improve, even though it's a dying fad.


      Android is an inferior OS for KODI. For a pure KODI experience the Vero 4K is superior.
       
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      Are you kidding me, £120? Any Android S905 chipset running SPMC will play full framed packed 3D
       
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      SPMC is based on Kodi v16.

      Vero 2 can also do frame packed 3D output on v16 and Vero 4K could do so if there had ever been a release of Kodi v16 for the Vero 4K. Instead OSMC uses the latest version of Kodi.

      The goal is for frame packed 3D on the latest version of Kodi and keep that version of Kodi up to date, rather than forcing users to use old versions for support of specific features
       
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      I opted for a Ziddo X9s and it has played everything I have thrown at it all through Kodi 17 front end. It was only cheap and I was struggling with video correction using a Intel NUC.

      Amazing bit of kit for the money and out performs video performance on a i5 NUC.
       
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      I'm looking for a media box that will stream from USB HD drives (formatted in NTFS) connected to a MacMini via my home network. I do not use NAS devices as I find them unreliable. I have a mass of Blue-Ray & DVD ripped files in various formats & regions which only play for me on the Mac's VLC player app. I'm not at all keen on the XBMC app (version 13) I have on my Mac and rarely use it. Does this have a similar UI as the Mac app & would the OSMC be a good purchase for me?
       
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      Does it have a source direct output where is automatically outputs the source frame rate and resolution?

      Martin
       
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      The Mac Mini outputs video via HDMI and the screen displays info of whatever resolution is on the files. Frame refresh rate on the display is fixed at 60 Hertz.
       
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      That should work, although I don't do MAC, but I see no reason why not provided you've set the sharing up correctly in the OS.

      KODI 17 looks a lot different to XMBC 13 using the default (estuary) skin although functionally it's not wildly different. That said, KODI is highly customisable and you can choose from many different looks so, chances are, you would find something you did like. There is a gentle(ish) learning curve while you become accustomed, though.
       
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      Yes, although it's not called source direct. You can output any resolution your display supports and it will also automatically switch refresh rate, too, provided you set it to do so. (I'm assuming you're talking about the Vero and not the Mac Mini).
       
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      Thanks! I'm almost committed. I'll make my mind up after seeing what the new AppleTV has to offer.
       
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      Does anyone know if the OSMC software with this 4K player can do usb audio with the inbuilt Kodi program, something which is not possible using an android kodi box.
      Thanks
       
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      I've committed. £109 on ebay, so took the leap, and if the AppleTV looks good I'll get one of those too. No stopping me now!
       
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      I'm thinking if doing same. I have a couple of shields, but think I'll try replacing one with both the vero and either an Apple TV or an Amazon HDR box if they do one - 2 boxes but think splitting them out will give me better quality.

      10% off the vero on the main site - today only.
       
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      That box is so awful that it gets specifically mentioned on the official Kodi buying guide as one to avoid.

      Should do, as it's debian underneath Kodi. The OSMC dev (Sam) has posted further up the thread - might be worth contacting him to check whether your specific device will work?
       
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      Thanks for the heads up, I just ordered one. :)
       

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