OS X El Capitan

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  1. Flashy

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    Suprised there wasn't a thread about this. No-one cares any more, do they?!

    Anyway. Looks like a nice incremental update unveiled at WWDC. Not sure about the name, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. Prefered it when they were named after big cats, if I'm honest, but hey-ho.

    Quite a few things that have been available elsewhere or via third-party apps (window snapping, for example), and all sorts of other stuff. Preview here: http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/
     
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    Can't believe Barclays are not supporting Apple Pay!
     
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    Looks really sweet, i watched the wwdc yesterday.
    I like how they make it more simple to use.
    And its free.
    And, no barclays?? Why?? They got the pingit which is cool, contactless, so really the next step is apple pay.
     
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    They are saying the Barclays thing is due to them having Pingit.

    I don't get this though, Pingit is completely different to Apple Pay.

    Pingit is for making payments to individuals, Apple Pay is for making payments to business retailers.

    You can't use Pingit for paying for coffee in Starbucks, right?
     
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    I've not watched the actual keynote myself yet, will watch it when I have the time. Looking forward to it, although no doubt a lot of the new stuff will be things around continuity, I love OSX, but I prefer Android over IOS, so no continuity for me :(
     
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    El Capitan is a nice little update, looking forward to installing. I was thinking about installing it on my spare MacBook Pro, but read a load of bug issues at the moment. I think I'll wait a couple of updates before installing.

    Barclay's are just plain stupid, if they think people are going to use Pingit over Apple Pay. As mention above they are completely different. They've really dropped a bollock, some of the tweet on their twitter feed where quite funny.
     
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    I like the ability to quickly mute tabs in the new Safari, will make it easier to block out those annoying video adverts that auto-play on some news websites.

    I wonder if it's got something to do with Barclays bPay (those contactless wristbands) rather than Pingit. They recently phased out bPay preventing new signups and are promising "New devices ... and even a mobile app."
     
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    You might have a point there. I had forgotten about bPay. I have one of them bands in a draw somewhere, which has never been used.

    Still a silly move if you ask me. 3 months ago I moved to Lloyds from Barclay's and I was a little disappointed I wouldn't be able to use Apple Pay right away. I feel for the Barclay's lot. Barclay's say that conversations between them and Apple are still ongoing from a recent tweet, so I wouldn't count Apple Pay arriving at Barclay's any time soon.
     
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    I reckon theyll adopt it, they have to really, if everyone else is.
    Seems that el capitan is really ironing out all the little tweeks etc, that has bugged a few people.
    Give it another few times over it should be near perfect.
    I dont use windows anymore, and im wondering how windows 10, or even 8 matches up against el cappo.
    I like how they are increasing power in the system by the little tweeks, so instead of new stuff hogging memory, it frees it up.wicked.
     
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    I've been a Barclays customer for over 20 years and I've never heard of bPay!

    Great work Barclays!
     
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    Just looked up bPay and it looks like it's a Barclaycard thing, so credit cards not bank account payments.
     
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    Before the announcement I fully expected Barclays to be one of the few banks involved, as they're usually at the forefront of this sort of thing, but they seem to the the only one that isn't!
     
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    Muting a tab is a brilliant idea. It is so annoying when you're reading something and then have to go searching for the source of the irritation.

    A lot of reports I've been reading suggest the initial beta is – the odd bug and app compaibilty aside – very stable and very quick, even on older hardware. That's good news for 2012 Mac mini owners like me.

    Was thinking about upgrading RAM from 4GB but will hold off until the autumn and see whether El Capitan does bring real-world improvements.
     
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    I was thinking of putting a SSD into my 2012 MacBook Pro. I suspect some of the El Capitan improvements will be centred around having a SSD as most of the new models have them.
     
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    Though not where TRIM is concerned for third-party drives, presumably, as with Yosemite.
     
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    I suppose in the worst case I'll see some sort of improvement from the upgrade?
     
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    SSD's are regularly cited as the best upgrade you can do, but there's an issue with TRIM support for third-party drives. I'm absolutely not an expert but have a search online — it's been gone into in depth.
     
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    I'll look into it. Hopefully it will be worth it because it's feeling a bit slow.
     
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    I've done an SSD upgrade in mine, and its absolutely made the machine feel like a brand new device.

    I am a little concerned about trim, some people say its essential, some people say its totally unnecessary, but at the end of the day, even with trim disabled and the drive having been used for long periods of time the benchmark results are still remarkably faster with SSD drives over the mechanical drive.

    You can enable trim in yosemite, but if you forget to disable it and do a ram reset, then you have to boot into single user and faff about to get the GUI to work again.

    What I've been trying to work out is whether trim needs to be run all the time in the background, or whether its done when you do a verify/repair? i.e. could you enable trim, run the verify and repair, then disable it afterward knowing everything its trimmed fine.

    I've asked this on a few forums, but everyone seems so busy arguing about whether trim is a necessity or not to answer.... but from my point of view I'm prepared to take the risk as my macbook was becoming unusable for what I wanted to use it for (DJ'ing) as the mechanical drive got more and more worn up.
     
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    I reckon the Barclays/Apple pay thing amounts to no more than "We want more money, no, more than that, more than that too, we want even more........................."

    Unfortunately, the mentality of institutions like this is, when presented with a great opportunity to provide a better service to their customers is, "how can we screw the maximum charges out of it?"
     
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    Ok, then I think I'll wait until El Capitan before upgrading the SSD.
     
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    Ive always had Trim supported on my Samsung 830 even on the latest beta Yosemite 10.10.4 (14E33b)
    Trim Enabler always checks the system on boot.

    If you dont have an SSD already go get one!
     
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    I installed an Angelbird SSD in my 2010 MBP which natively supports TRIM.
     
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    download is taking too long! and at 6gb it's never going to complete on any/all 3 of my machines tonight
    i've been a day one upgrader since leopard to snow leopard but actually i'm not that fussed about this upgrade. i'm sure it'll have some nice touches and tweaks but they're probably relatively insignificant for a user like me
     
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    Yeah I realise there's a lot of people after the updates but damn it is slow! You'd think with all their billions they could get some more bandwidth for big releases..... Or use a p2p system perhaps.

    Been going for hours and 3.98GB of 6.08GB downloaded.
     
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    all done on 2 comps.
    about 5 hours after launch it was pretty quick to download
    only difference i've seen now is mission control layout which is way overdue!!
     
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    I'm grudgingly holding off for the minute. Working from home today and can't afford any downtime. Might end up having to wait for the weekend.
     
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    I've upgraded my laptop - all went smoothly and it is up and running again. There are a few changes I've spotted, but in the main part it looks pretty much the same as Yosemite.

    Upgrading my Mac Pro is a whole different kettle of fish entirely, so I'm holding off on that for a bit.
     

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