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Original Pirate Material (You're listening to the Streets)

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  1. Gorshin

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    Dear Avforums readers,

    It has come to my attention that this album is the greatest of the past 5 years. It is truly soulful, with genious production and truly intelligent, 'street-level' lyrics. Take a listen to 'Turn the page' at full volume and then tell me otherwise. Also, 'Weak become heroes' is a true piece of modern soul music. Who else accurately describes the lives of modern 20 something British males so accurately? I defie anyone to dislike this album.

    It is must own 'product'.

    P.s. Only 'Blinded by the lights' (from A grand don't come for free) gets close to recapturing the vibe of Original Pirate Material. Mike Skinner is a modern day poet loreate. :)
     
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    Turn the page on the day, walk away
    'cos there's sense in what I say
    I'm 45th generation Roman
    But I don't know 'em
    Or care when I'm spitting
    So return to your sitting position and listen it's fitting
    I'm miles ahead and they chase me
    Show yer face on TV, then we'll see
    You can't do half, my crew laughs
    At yer rhubarb and custard verses
    You rain down curses but I'm waving,
    Yer hearse is driving by
    Streets riding high, with the beats in the sky
    All stare, eyes glazed
    Garage burnt down, the fire raged
    For 40 days and in 40 ways
    But through the blaze they see it fade
    The sea of black, the beaming heat on their faces
    Then a figure emerges from the wastage
    Eyes transfixed with a piercing gaze
    One hand clutching a sword raised to the sky
    They wonder how, they wonder why
    The sky turns white, it all becomes clear
    They felt lifted from their fears
    They shed tears in the light
    After 6 dark years
    Young bold soldiers, the fire burns
    Cracks and smoulders
    5 years older and wiser
    The fires are burning on fire, never tire
    Slay warriors in the forests and on higher
    We sing, hear the strings rising
    The war's over, the bells ring
    Memories fading, soldiers slaying
    Looks like geezers raving
    The hazy fog over the Bull Ring
    The lazy ways the birds sing
    A new baby's born every day
    Few men may be scorned today
    But look at things the other way
    Cos it may well be yer final day
    And then the crowds roar, they slay, they all say
    I produce this using only my bare wit
    Gimme a jungle, a garage beat and admit defeat,
    Use war and past injury as my metaphor and simile
    Get all applications into me before the deadline
    Cos it's a fine line between strifeful crimes
    And a life of crime
    But you will reach the day, and it's all mine
    You can take it or leave it,
    I shake and reveal stage tricks like Jimi Hendrix
    In the afterlife gladiators meet their maker
    Float through the wheat fields and lakes of blue water
    To the next life from the fortress
    Away from the knives and slaughter
    To their wives and daughters
    Once more before the Lord judges over all of us
    Cos in this place you'll see me
    Brace yourself, cos this goes deep
    I'll show you the secrets, the sky and the birds
    Actions speak louder than words
    Stand by me my apprentice
    Be brave, clench fists.
     
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    Gorshin - I would both echo and appreciate your enthusiasm. I am glad you have discovered 'The Streets' and in particular the track 'Turn the Page'. I too have listed this track to be one of may favourites and on these very forums. I agree, it is a quite superbly written track, lyrically and musically. I am sure however there will be many challenges to the view that this is the best albulm of the last 5 years.. I do like both of the Streets albulms, actually preffering the second to the first, though in my opinion Turn The Page is the best song from either. Looking laterally across the musical spectrum and in the same urban territory, I would suggest that TWS 'Elephant' to be of equal, if not greater standing in the musical pantheon of class albulms which punctuate a particular genre.
     
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    Have you seen the video for Blinded by the Light's though?

    The track sound's like it's all based in a nightclub, especially when he's mentioning taking copious amounts of E, and wittering about having to go to the doorway to use his phone, even though his (imaginary?) friends haven't arrived or got in contact with him (alarm bells should be ringing).

    The video on the other hand is set at a wedding in a hotel.

    I've been to quite a few weddings (including my own) and didn't feel the inclination to take E either out of fun or boredom.
    I don't think standing in a (warm) foyer is the same as standing in the p :censored: g rain outside a club.
    And did it ever occur to Mr Skinner that his mates may not have been invited to this wedding?

    Anyway, I may be getting off on the wrong foot, and this thread is about the music not the video.

    The problem I have with the streets is, I will agree that the 1st album had some excellent work on it, namely the tracks that wern't singles, but the wide-boy mockney persona, and IMHO the glorification of getting off your face on Stella and taking drugs makes the whole outfit come out looking like a bunch of twits (that's a typo!)

    The same thing happened with Oasis & the Verve in the 90's. Good music, get more famous, turn into ******s and then mass produce rubbish that will sell because they built up a strong fan-base with the early good music.

    I know other bands glorify drink & drugs, but the Streets audience I feel is, like most other bands out at the moment, the young teen (why else would they release the catchy pop tunes, when the more ambient stuff is infinitely better?) which is going to make, what is already a majority of little sods, into older bigger sods think that getting drunk, taking drugs and putting you pecker into anything that moves totally acceptable.

    Sorry if that is blunt, but that is my opinion.

    As for Mr Skinner being (quote) "a modern day poet loreate." (end quote), some of the stuff he right's is pure drivvle, and he feels the need to repeat it, and he feels the need to repeat it.

    For good example's of this try listening to the track £3-10, on the "Casetteboy Vs DJ Rubbish - From inside a Whales C :censored: k" which emphasises some of Mr Skinners most memorable & stupid lines.

    I'm with MC Pitman on this one
     
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    I wasnt aware that bands were under obligation to make their videos exactly mirror what happens in the song :rolleyes: Some of the best videos of the last few years have had nothing whatsoever to do with the lyrics of the songs they are connected to!

    I would imagine Mr Skinner is writing and err "singing" about things he knows and has experience with;I have no problem with this whatsoever.Would you prefer he sang about the joys of yachting and fox hunting? :lease:
     
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    Gorshin, whilst I respect your views entirely (I have OPM and find it quite witty/funny), please dont confuse "greatest album" with "album that resonates most with me".

    If OPM "accurately describes the lives of modern 20 something British males", then I feel very sorry for them :(

    DT

    :offtopic: Thought AGDCFF was terrible and sold it after two weeks.
     
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    It is my greatest album of the past 5 years. No other lyrisist cuts deeper, or more accurately than Skinner. 'Stay Positive' is utter lyrical genious.
     
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    The White Stripes are nothing compared to the genious of Original Pirate Material. In fact, they're massively overrated :rolleyes:
     
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    Skinner fan and a stripes fan. These things are too subjective
     
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    Damn right, i dislike both.
     
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    Thank God for Itunes so I could listen to a little of each track - otherwise I may have gone out and bought this ;)
     
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    i really can't stand the streets, it just seems like another talentless chav's attempt at making money off other chavs who like what they're told to like by top of the pops and mtv.

    Dry your eyes mate is quite possibly the worst thing i've ever heard
     
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    You're so wrong. Skinner's lyrics are so deeply intelligent and the songs so catchy/soulful/well-produced etc that all other pop music is from fantasy land. The streets discuss real life feelings/events rather than meaningless depression or love songs. To call Skinner a chav is totally innaccurate and offensive. Chavs are doss ***** and have no place in a decent, intelligent and creative society.

    Original Pirate Material is a masterpiece. It was comprehensively applauded by the tasteful music press. 'Weak become heros' and 'Stay Positive' are hymns to the human spirit. Also, just how accurate and intelligent is 'the irony of it all'?, or have you even listened to it? :rolleyes:
     
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    This ain’t a track it’s a movement/…/I make bangers not anthems/ Leave that to the Artful Dodger. - from Let’s Push Things Forward

    There are so many ways to describe Mike Skinner’s debut as The Streets. The easiest is to look at it for what it is; a stunning debut album, which showcases the evolution of a 23-year-old Manchester ****er into the heir to London’s garage scene. Original Pirate Material garnished the coveted Mercury award in 2002. In a symbiotic fusion of urban northern English grit and the hard beats of the southern England, this disc has become a modern classic.

    Original Pirate material is Mike Skinner’s personal gauntlet to the world. Starting from the opening challenge of turn the page to the final inspiration of stay positive, Skinner’s lyrics assault the listener on everything from blokes to geezers to on the doll. Using some of the richest rhymes to come out of the U.K., Skinner’s words come off as those of an inspired street prophet. While most North American listeners will need a personal interpreter or at least a half a year’s worth of Coronation Street to understand many of the lyrics, the streets message becomes clearer with patience. The Streets’ sound is fresh and embodies the grit of everyday urban life.

    While the lyrics are at the forefront of this masterpiece, the beats are equally as impressive. The mixture of classical instruments, jagged beats, soft loops and dangerous base is impeccable. This mishmash of sounds is as about as confusing as an English fry-up, but somehow it comes out all right in the end.

    From the opening beats and violin loop of the disc, the vibe of the record is simply brilliant. Turn The Page is an excellent opening track coupled with multiple layers, where Skinner’s rhyming warns of his intentions to unleash his music revolution. Declaring his credentials on one of the opening lyrics “I produced this using only my bare wit/ Give me a jungle or garage beat and admit defeat.” The third track Let’s Push Things Forward continues Skinner’s gripe with the current state of music today. Skinner calls on some friends to reiterate his idea over top a laid-back vibe “they say that everything sounds the same/then you go buy them/ there’s no excuses then my friend/ let’s push things forward.” These slew of tracks make it easy to forget the man behind the fury is nothing more than a scrawny bloke from middle class England.

    After establishing himself, Skinner begins to release his quarrels with the current state of urban culture. The classic Geezers Need Excitement slices down the unfortunate Stella induced sub-culture of British Hooliganism. The dark beats coupled perfectly with the critical lyrics of the hotheaded blokes, easily make this an excellent track. Too Much Brandy mocks the stupidity of the boot-and-rally lifestyle of youth of today. Don’t Mug Yourself captures the feeling of the morning after perfectly. The Irony Of It All unleashes a highly sarcastic parley between a stoner and a hooligan on the state of drug laws, over top of a mismatch of beats.

    But Original Pirate Material is clearly at its best when Skinner’ softens the drums and divulges through personal imagery. The excellent It’s Too Late elegantly relives a dissolved relationship. The soft drum beat and the use of a slow drawn violin matches the agony of the lyrics and back-up vocals. Easily the standout track on this album is Weak Become Heroes, which is a slow montage of soft beats and a beautiful piano loop. Musically it highlights the nostalgic atmosphere of the lyrics. The song is nothing more than a realistic connection to the naivety of ecstasy, pissers, Oakenfold, bouncers, triples, tall cans and nightclub culture in general.

    The Streets debut Original Pirate Material is a capsule of urban life, for both sides of the Atlantic. The combination of garage beats and classical loops makes it a perfect album to lounge to. But the best ingredient of this disc is the lyrics, which encompass so many elements of urban society. Occasionally Skinner’s opinions become irritating, but the sheer number of standout tracks overshadows any real faults. While on this side of the Atlantic this record can easily be tossed aside as euro-trash, with some compassion and patience its perfection is revealed.
    Eat lead. See how riled up you've got me? :cool:
     
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    I think we get your point now :) :rolleyes:
     
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    i've not listened to the albums, cos the singles i've heard make me want mr skinner to fall under a bus or two, and it's very unlikely i'll ever do so. My music tastes are somehwat different, each to their own and all that, but i'd much rather have on some Marilyn Manson.
     
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    :rolleyes: I loathe it :suicide:
     
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    The force is strong in young Skinner. :D
     
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    For those of you unaware of how these things work, Gorshin doesn't "do" criticism or discussion. For the Magnum Opus of his threads type "Paula Radcliffe" as a search reference :clown:.
     
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    :rotfl: well put Tons ;)
     
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    What about Paula Radcliffe? See the New York marathon? :D :hiya:
     
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    Oh, come on!:thumbsdow :lesson: :nono:
     
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    I do both criticism and discussion. 'Original Pirate Material' is genious (criticism) and i'm conversing with you (discourse).
     
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    Well if you enjoy listening to an album where every track sounds the same......
     
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    Try listening to it. Have you?
     
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    In fact, thats like saying that listening to any album is monotonous. All bands have a certain style, a motif. I find Original Pirate Material to be totally diverse, ranging from anthemic, soulful, playful, nostalgic, gritty and even melancholic :lesson:
     
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    Well in the nature of criticism and discussion I have of course listened to both albums and compared to Roots Manuva's Run Come Save Me, Skinner's vocals are weak, his production values poor and the level of emotive value non existent compared to the the former. Skinner charms popular culture because some of us think we might have been there before. Roots Manuva takes to places we are fortunate enough (for the most part) to never have been but makes us feel we are there nonetheless.
     
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    What does 'Skinner's vocals are weak' mean???? Production levels poor???????????what the fudge? this album sounds phenonemal on my denon system. Really punchy and detailed mix. Skinner is so soulful compared to manuva. His lyrics really hit home. This, my friend is genious at work:

    Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider
    There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer
    And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight
    Good bloke fairly
    But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny
    Bounce 'em round like bunnies
    I'm likely to cause mischief
    Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief.
    Law abiding and all, all legal.
    And who cares about my liver when it feels good
    Wwhat you need is some real manhood.
    Rasher Rasher Barney and Kasha putting peoples backs up.
    Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder.
    I down eight pints and run all over the place
    Spit in the face of an officer
    See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life
    Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife
    Come on lads lets have another fight

    Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal,
    In the eyes of society I need to be in jail
    For the choice of herbs I inhale.
    This ain't no wholesale operation
    Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation
    I pose a threat to the nation
    And down the station the police hold no patience
    Let's talk space and time
    I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein
    And Carl Jung And old Kung Fu movies I like to see
    Pass the hydrator please
    Yeah I'm floating on thin air.
    Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there
    Cause I taker pride in my hobby
    Home made bongs using my engineering degree
    Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons.

    Like I was saying to him.
    I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave."
    So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling
    Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night.
    Mad fight, his face's a sad sight.
    Vodka and Snake Bite.
    Going on like a right geez, he's a ****,
    Shouldn't have looked at me like that.
    Anyway I'm an upstanding citizen
    If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
    Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin.
    Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society
    I've got all the anger pent up inside of me.

    You know I don't see why I should be the criminal
    How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal
    And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol
    I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting
    We pose no threat on my settee
    Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please
    "We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it out
    I doubt they meant to mess us about
    After all we're all adults not louts."
    As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people
    We're not the ones out there causing trouble.
    We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters
    Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is.
    MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning.
    Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my bedtime.

    Causing trouble, your stinking rabble
    Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it
    You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I'm a thug
    Just for getting drunk
    I like getting drunk
    Cause I'm an upstanding citizen
    If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.

    Now Terry you're repeating yourself
    But that's okay drunk people can't help that.
    A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to forget what you're saying.

    What. I know exactly what I'm saying
    I'm perfectly sane
    You stinking student lameo
    Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes.

    Err, well actually according to research
    Government funding for further education pales in insignificance
    When compared to how much they spend on repairing
    Leery drunk people at the weekend
    In casualty wards all over the land.

    Why you cheeky little swine come here
    I'm gonna batter you. Come here
     
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    well the word fan does derive from fanatic after all... is mike skinner your boyfriend or something?
     
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    Very droll. i am simply in lurve with OPM. It rocks my world. Also Master of Puppets. When I get into something, I get into it
     
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