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Optima Saying that H78 now has DC3 chip???

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by dealmaker, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. dealmaker

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    Been enquiring about the H78 and wanted to get one with the latest DC3 chip.

    The Optima rep is purportedly saying that the H78 does indeed NOW have the latest DC3 chip fitted, and has done for the last two months because supplies of the old chip are exhausted.

    Can anyone else substantiate this ? ..or is there a way to confirm defintivley that the DC3 chip is fitted in preference to the older version by external inspection/hack?
     
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    Dealmaker,

    This was reported on a german forum (www.MeinHeimkino.com) on the 18 july but there has been no follow up.

    Was this your source ?

    Foghorn
     
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    No - my dealer enquired following my statement that I would not buy unless it had the DC3 chip - and would wait unitl that became available.

    The factory rep told my dealer that all H78's now shipping are DC3 chip so thats what I would get if I ordered now.
     
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    Just noticed that a person from Norway reporting on the AVS forum has just received a H78DC3 and guess were it came from England. :confused:

    The plot thickens.

    Foghorn
     
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    Wish we could get a definitive statement form somebody?
     
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    How does one determine whether a unit is DC3 or not???
     
  7. Joe Fernand

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    Hello all

    I can now confirm that as Texas Instruments have run out of HD2+ chips, Optoma UK, rather than discontinue their successful H78 projector, have fitted current stock with the NEW DC3 chip at no extra cost to the lucky customers that purchase one now.

    There is no plan to re-badge or market the Projector in the UK as the H78DC3 or otherwise - it will continue to be known as the H78.

    Unfortunately it is not technically possible for existing H78 owners to upgrade their HD2+ chipped machines to the DC3 chip - though anyone who has received an H78 in the last week or so will find they have a DC3 equipped model.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
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    Incidentally....the DC3 is an HD2+ chip...it's just a DC3 variant.....the previous was an HD2+ DC2. Still sounds like good news.

    Gordon
     
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    Guys,

    So say I buy the H78 DC3's and partner it with say, my intended DVD player, an Arcam DV29 with HDMI output, via an HDMI>DVI cable - will this then mean that the Optomas colour decoder is bypassed - and I will get good quality images on R1 (USA) DVD's?

    (I've heard the Optoma's achilles heel is it's scaler & decoder - in that it's not as good as the Marantz S4)
     
  10. Joe Fernand

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    PS Nearly forgot - as of 1st August 05 the H78 has a new UK SRP of £3K :)

    Best regards

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    Is there anything we H78 HD2+ buyers (who payed a premium) since it was released within the last 5 months do anything about this?

    Feeling a bit gutted!
    After all its not as if we're talking something costing a few hundred quid.
     
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    Hello seanm

    The manufacturers are stuck between a rock and a hard place - on the one hand we've had a load of folk complaining that they want new chip sets and lower prices and now that its possible to deliver those two 'specifications' folk who have the HD2+ unit will say its not fair.

    I'm not sure which wise AVForums sage said it but your best option is to never read another thread once you've made a decision to purchase; it would be a brave manufacturer these days who put prices up and included older spec components!

    Best regards

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    Interesting developments, and it is good to have some concrete evidence. It is also good to see the drop in price :)
     
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    Fair point Joe,
    Why didn't they just call it a H785 or H78+ or something?
    That would have been easier to swallow.
     
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    WOW...... a price cut of £500 and the DC3 fitted to the UK H78.

    Wild horses won't be able to hold me back now. Clear all the streets I'm rushing out now to upgrade..............

    As if. :rolleyes:

    Seriously though, is the new updated H78 with DC3 worth £1600 on top of a BenQ 7700???

    Perhaps it just might be, (what am i saying!!) if internally the stickers read H79....
     
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    Actually, why didnt they just call it the H79 as opposed to keeping the H78 name. Or is there a higher spec model in the pipeline that will be called H79 :confused:
     
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    Hello seanm

    I doubt there's a single Plasma Display or Projector that lasts a whole 12 months without a change in specification, a price drop or both.

    Its a fast moving market and definitely not something for a buyer to 'Invest' in as the prices only ever go one way!

    I'm afraid you have to purchase when the time is right for you - enjoy the projector and keep the blinkers on as far as pricing goes or you'll forever be unhappy if you see prices dropping.

    Best regards

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    Hello all

    Nothing concrete on a higher spec model - I'm sure one will come but nothing on the near horizon.

    Best regards

    Joe

    Zag - go on get the BenQ; you know you want one!
     
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    Joe,

    Thanks for the input ! Please may I ask; what warranty does the Optoma have as standard?

    Is it easy to calibrate (I've heard they are pants "out of the box")??

    Thanks
     
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    Standard warranty for Optoma/ThemeScene® projectors is generally two years, but may vary.
    I think the H78 is 3 Years.
     
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    Taken from the H78 Brochure.

    "In the unlikely event of your projector requiring attention within 3 years of purchase, we will collect it on a next day collection service, repair and then return it to you.

    If you require a projector during the repair we will loan you a replacement unit.**

    **The loan unit may not be the same model or have the same features as the unit being repaired. The Total Care warranty applies to the UK mainland only."
     
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    Thanks Sean
     
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    Guys,

    How will I find the brightness of the H78 compared to my Sony VPL VW10HT - screen is 8ft wide and projector 13.5ft away in a mostly light controlled room?
     
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    dealmaker

    Out of the Box I'd disagree with them being 'pants' (its a technical term used in Glasgow) - they tend to have a shift to green and otherwise produce a pretty acceptable image.

    If your an experienced DIY'er there are plenty of hints and tips doing the rounds on various web sites that'll give you a steer as to what to look at - though you need to have a small assembly of Test Discs and light meters to achieve every 'trick' being suggested.

    Throw a calibration technician at the H78 and you'll end up with a very decent looking image.

    The Warranty is Three Years!

    Best regards

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    Does anyone know if this is the same throw as the 'old' H78 i.e 1.6 as this is the maximum throw i have to work to for my required screen size.
     
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    Joe

    Zag - go on get the BenQ; you know you want one!

    I do indeed. But with CEDIA in the states only 6 weeks away and new PJ's from panasonic, Sanyo e.t.c.. all coming out very soon. Now is not the time for someone reasonable happy with their current projector to upgrade.

    The PJ landscape is changing very quiickly at the moment in just a few weeks we'll have a much better picture of what's around the corner.

    If the BenQ 7700 still seems like the best option for me after CEDIA I'll bag one of 'em. if not I'm more than willing to wait a couple of months for the new wave of models around the corner.

    You never know, I may even up with a H78 after all this.

    Optoma UK marketing bunch of monkeys!!! IMHO. Thankfully though their engineers know what they are doing.
     

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