Optical HD Battle May Be Over: HD-DVD Wins

Bald Monkey

Novice Member
Probably still too soon to call, but certainly doesn't look good for Sony...

Regardless of the facts (which seem pretty clear) even the rumour that all is not well could be damaging for both Sony and BR.
 
Well, the online magazine seems as informed as the rest of us really. They got it wrong once, they can get it wrong again. Plus the directors worked for Microsoft, so might have friends to satisfy.
 

andythescientis

Active Member
Pretty well writen article.

I think this is the sort of stuff alot of people sitting on the fence like myself have been waiting to read.

HD-DVD... Home movie format.

Blu-Ray PS3 version of UMD and PC storage solution.

Sounds pretty realistic to me as a "joe bloggs" in AV terms.

A few more articles like this in the main stream publications and i think the general public will be convinced.

I think if nothing else this shows the power of microsoft, once they get behind something they rarely make a mistake, like them or not.

Now what to get xbox and drive or a standalone tosh in jan/feb..... :boggle:
 

Fillumgeek

Well-known Member
I like my HD-DVD drive and it was cheap. For them to win I guess they will have to bring out as much AAA software as possible in the next 6 months. Then if the user base is large enough the big studios will have to publish their movies on this format, they won't cut off their nose to spite their faces.

Plus they owe me Casino Royale on Hd-dvd after the money I've spent on shiny discs over the years!:smashin: :rotfl:
 

cj

Active Member
HD-DVD... Home movie format.

Blu-Ray PS3 version of UMD and PC storage solution.
I also think this is how it will turn out, although I'm not too sure even an optical storage solution for PCs will be relevant for much longer - not when I can get a 500GB external drive for £150. Will be an interesting 12 months for Sony and BD.
 

BadAss

Banned
Do people realy think the war is over when Blu-Ray has only just got going?

The PS3 has only been out 20 days and what limited numbers there were at launch, probably ended up on either Ebay or under Christmas Trees. We wont see the full effect the PS3 has until 1Q 07.

As for Studios, all the top titles are still to come. Why are the HD-DVD fan base in so much of a rush to see the war over before its properly begun?

Whos going to be supporting HD-DVD when you need Blu-Ray to watch Spiderman, Armagedden, ID4, Alien films, Die Hards, Pirates, Star Wars, etc?
 

shaithis

Active Member
Whos going to be supporting HD-DVD when you need Blu-Ray to watch Spiderman, Armagedden, ID4, Alien films, Die Hards, Pirates, Star Wars, etc?
And what BD-only studios aren't going to revise their stance if people aren't buying BD movies in the quantities that HD-DVD are selling in?

Its all about the bottom dollar and so far HD-DVD seems to be doing the best in that department.
 

MitchR

Novice Member
Let's not start with "Why He's So Full Of It!" :nono:

It's not all about the PS3 though, but it's certainly a player that needs to be taken into acount...

I remember the thread on AVF about Blu-Ray being better than HD-DVD on Movie releases...well, that's kind of harsh to say but...Looking at the latest reviews @ HighDefDigest, at least there seems to be NO DIFFERENCE anymore between the two formats. The only thing having influence on the quality seems to be the player, nothing else.

Miami Vice HD-DVD seems to suck when it comes to PQ and SQ
Kingdom of Heaven seems to be very very good! (PQ and SQ)
World Trade Center seems to be equal when it comes to both P and SQ

It's far too early to tell which format wins, but, when it comes to movies, Sony seems to get things going a.t.m. and MPEG2 seems to be doing well now. This means codec issues are no longer a problem. With the Pio BD player at sight, this is when the fun starts
 

MitchR

Novice Member
And what BD-only studios aren't going to revise their stance if people aren't buying BD movies in the quantities that HD-DVD are selling in?

Its all about the bottom dollar and so far HD-DVD seems to be doing the best in that department.
that's only because of the expensive players, which will certainly drop prices soon enough
 

dino2021

Active Member
Do people realy think the war is over when Blu-Ray has only just got going?

The PS3 has only been out 20 days and what limited numbers there were at launch, probably ended up on either Ebay or under Christmas Trees. We wont see the full effect the PS3 has until 1Q 07.
One only has to look at the avforums offical HD poll to see the ps3 is going to have less effect on the market than the 360 hd add on is. and with a user base of 10m consoles to sell to by year end, safe to say HD DVD is going know where.

159 votes for 360 hd addon related votes
42 votes for ps3 blu ray related votes
 

Avi

Distinguished Member
Do people realy think the war is over when Blu-Ray has only just got going?

The PS3 has only been out 20 days and what limited numbers there were at launch, probably ended up on either Ebay or under Christmas Trees. We wont see the full effect the PS3 has until 1Q 07.

As for Studios, all the top titles are still to come. Why are the HD-DVD fan base in so much of a rush to see the war over before its properly begun?

Whos going to be supporting HD-DVD when you need Blu-Ray to watch Spiderman, Armagedden, ID4, Alien films, Die Hards, Pirates, Star Wars, etc?
Do you have a link confirming the release dates of all the films you list above ?

AVI
 

richard plumb

Distinguished Member
oh good, another online magazine editorial pushing one person's opinion as evidence as to why one format or other will win. :rolleyes:

Doesn't help that they did the same last year and chose the other format
 

BadAss

Banned
One only has to look at the avforums offical HD poll to see the ps3 is going to have less effect on the market than the 360 hd add on is. and with a user base of 10m consoles to sell to by year end, safe to say HD DVD is going know where.

159 votes for 360 hd addon related votes
42 votes for ps3 blu ray related votes
This is what makes me laugh.

Its all well and good having a poll before the titles are here. How long will it be before people are saying well this title pushed me into buying a PS3 or that titles I couldn't be without. The titles are coming.....
 

MitchR

Novice Member
One only has to look at the avforums offical HD poll to see the ps3 is going to have less effect on the market than the 360 hd add on is. and with a user base of 10m consoles to sell to by year end, safe to say HD DVD is going know where.

159 votes for 360 hd addon related votes
42 votes for ps3 blu ray related votes
Is this UK based?? Because then the poll means nothing :D
 

BadAss

Banned

BadAss

Banned
TBA (promoted as "coming soon" at Internationale Funkausstellung (IFA) September 2006 in Germany) - The Day After Tomorrow, ID4: Independence Day, Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World, Moulin Rouge, X2: X-Men United

TBA (promoted as "coming soon" at Internationale Funkausstellung (IFA) September 2006 in Germany) - Starship Troopers, Bad Boys II, Big Fish, Lawrence of Arabia, The Patriot, Spider-Man 2, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Vertical Limit, Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle

Alien v Predator come in January. Confirmed.

Pirates is advertised everywhere for iminent BD release.
 
@Badass.. you are often standing up for Blue-Ray, but I'm pretty sure that if you had waited till now, you could have bought both formats for the same price that you paid for your Blue-Ray player.
 

Bald Monkey

Novice Member
Confident?:rotfl:
:D
just happy as 3 new HD-DVD's have just turned up from Movietyme. :clap:



I do wish both formats would start synchronous releases of new titles on HD and DVD...

I'm not of course suggesting I won't buy any movies I already have on SD :D , but I'd rather buy new movies that I haven't got! :smashin:
 

BadAss

Banned
Looks like HD-DVD seems to be releasing more back catalog titles than BD, according to these reviews.

HD-DVD

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation (1989)
Scary Movie 4 (2006)
Dr. Seuss' How The Grinch Stole Christmas (2000)
The Mummy (1999)
Superman Returns (2006)
An American Werewolf in London (1981)
You, Me and Dupree (2006)
Superman: The Movie (1978)
Waterworld (1995)
Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (1980)

Average year: 1994

Blu-Ray

Enemy of the State (1998)
The Transporter (2002)
Superman Returns (2006)
Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (1980)
Superman: The Movie (1978)
Annapolis (2006)
The Wild (2006)
Ice Age: The Meltdown (2006)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (2006)

Average year: 1999
 

Likvid

Banned
its always something around the corner with Blu Ray. now its down to back catalogue to save it :rotfl:
Hahahaha..the bluray fanboys in this forum doesn't have much left to desire.

Seems BD have most old back catalog titles according to another review site:

BD:

The Last Waltz (Blu-ray)
MGM Home Entertainment / 1978

Reds (Blu-ray)
Paramount Home Entertainment / 1981

Superman: The Movie (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Video / 1978

Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Video / 1981

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Entertainment / 1989

A Christmas Story (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Entertainment / 1983

The Searchers (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Video / 1956

Blazing Saddles (Blu-ray)
Warner Home Video / 1974

HD-DVD:

World Trade Center (HD DVD)
Paramount Home Entertainment / 2006

Miami Vice (2006) (HD DVD)
Universal Studios Home Entertainment / 2006

King Kong (2005) (HD DVD)
Universal Studios Home Video / 2005

Superman Returns (HD DVD)
Warner Home Video / 2006

Mission: Impossible III (HD DVD)
Paramount Home Entertainment / 2006

The Last Samurai (HD DVD)
Warner Home Entertainment / 2003

Million Dollar Baby (HD DVD)
Warner Home Entertainment / 2004

The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (HD DVD)
Universal Studios Home Entertainment / 2006


BluRay average age: 1978


HD-DVD average age: 2005


I don't know about you, but the HD-DVD titles are much more attractive and also they release more blockbuster titles on HD-DVD, not to mention the whole library of Universal titles exclusive to HD-DVD.
 

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