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Oppo BDP-93 Networking Universal Blu-ray Player

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players' started by John Hodson, Sep 23, 2010.

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  1. BrianMW

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    Nice one, note the Sabre32 DAC logo on the front facia, backs up what AVI (and others) said about the DAC's being the same as the 83se, looks like this could be yet another cracking Oppo! ;)

    And Arcam take note:
    Cough Cough...
     
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    Does this mean it's better than the 83SE or the 93?

    I would have thought that the video processing of the 93 and 95 would be similar.
     
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    Wondered where I had just read about that DAC?....... Audiolab new CD player with 4 digital inputs, to be followed by a version without CD!
     
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    The appearance just doesn't seem consistent with either the 83 or the 93. I also believe the 'hidden' tray is a design feature that Oppo will carry forward on future models and its lacking on the '95'. Also the comments made next to the pic appear to be somewhat misguided.

    "Oppo spent the year with its head down working on the “next best Blu-ray player.” And here it is. The new Oppo BDP-95 is the now the new standard in Blu-ray players under a grand." Well its not here and probably won't be for at least 6 months

    Theres no great substance to my belief its just a hunch. Probably wrong. :smashin:
     
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    John Westlake, who designed the Audiolab units to which you refer, also worked with ESS to improve the existing 9008 DAC to make the 9018, as used by Audiolab.

    EDIT: That might not be quite right if the 95 is using the same DACs as the 83SE, as the 9018 might not have been available then.
     
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    So you are saying it is a fake just on a hunch with no evidence?
     
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    What I said in my original post was "This looks fake to me". Didn't say it actually was, and yes it actually does look like a photoshop pic imo for the reasons I gave and because it just seems odd the way its presented on that site, i.e the wording seems to be suggesting the 95 is already out but the release date says 1st qtr 2011. Also said I would probably be wrong. Chillax Nic.:smashin:
     
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    some of the guys in the US have got their 93's and other's are biting nails.. info about the 95 is popping up, the only thing that gets me about the advert is the 'vudu' service... its currently unavailable via oppo... although it may well be in the future... price seems ok, im not into the dac stuff :D

    oppodigital. 23/11/2010...
     
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    Looks nice :) :smashin:
     
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    But surely, for some given content, if the ABT2010 performs 2:3 IVTC to 60p without issues, then there should be no issues with IVTC to 24p for the same content, since the same 24fps are being re-constituted?
     
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    I guess the difference is between the "should" and "does". :)

    There was a discussion around this subject during beta testing some ABT product based on the ABT2010. Here's a comment from ABT following a change they made from using "film bias" to "forced 3:2" mode for 24(29.976)hz output.

    "The problem with any deinterlacing mode such as film bias which dynamically switches between film and video modes (aka, weave and motion-adaptive) is that it will sometimes lose lock on even a perfect source. This can happen for a number of reasons, such as very little motion in the image or a transition between very different scenes. When this happens, and particularly when the deinterlacer reacquires lock, it can sometimes be out of phase with what the frame rate conversion hardware is doing during the period of no lock on the 3:2 cadence. This will typically cause a stutter as the frame rate conversion logic adapts to the new situation.

    The forced 3:2 deinterlacing mode is different. Once it initially acquires lock, it will never lose lock or produce a change in the 3:2 phase as long as the source maintains a steady 3:2 cadence. Consequently, for a 'perfect' source such as BD, you should get a perfect conversion from a 60 Hz source with 3:2 pulldown to the 24 Hz output. However, if the incoming 3:2 pulldown sequence is disturbed or momentarily disrupted, the forced 3:2 mode can take some time to switch to the post-disturbance situation. During that period you will likely see combing in the image rather than stutter. With a 'perfect' source this sort of disturbance only happens when the user alters playback, such as pausing or chapter-skipping. Many sources are less than perfect, however, and will yield problems with any deinterlacing and frame rate conversion method (short of, perhaps, motion compensation). These include many DVDs (and even some 'perfect' DVDs with a less than perfect player), movie trailers (which are normally very heavily edited), and nearly all broadcast material which was originally recorded on film, as the vast majority of that material is edited in the video domain without regard to the 3:2 cadence.

    So the advantage of the new scheme is that it gives very good results for a very good quality source. The disadvantage is that with a less than perfect source you will see some combing at transitions (and maybe a little stutter, which is unavoidable). However, since a less than perfect source cannot be converted to a 24 Hz output without some type of disruption, you'll never get a perfect conversion anyway. In my opinion, you shouldn't convert any thing but a source with a perfect 3:2 cadence to a 24 Hz output. Otherwise, you're pretty much guaranteed to have problems of one sort or another."

    Avi
     
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    But this seems to have been removed from their site so I suppose that delivery has been delayed?
     
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    It's still there! :)
     
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    Had a response from Oppo re the 95. Nothing really new other than the release date is likely to be some time between early and mid 2011.

    "Unfortunately we are not yet confirming any of the specifications of this product. The only thing that we can confirm is that the player will likely be released between early to mid-2011.

    Best Regards,"

    Customer Service
    OPPO Digital, Inc.
    2629B Terminal Blvd.
    Mountain View, CA 94043
    Service@oppodigital.com
    Tel: 650-961-1118
    Fax: 650-961-1119
     
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    Thanks! I missed it.
     
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    look quite nice
    Seeing as i cancelled the Arcam this i hope will fit the bill :D
     
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    Oh dear the new BDP-93 boots up slower !! :eek:

    bloody 3D :p

    "OPPO Yes, there is a newer (and technically faster) Sony optical unit for the BDP-93 product, necessary to support 3D. Generally speaking, the BDP-93 boots up slower than the BDP-83 (due to inclusion of the various internet applications) but once booted up loads discs a little faster than the BDP-83. So it's give and take. "
     
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    Not only is is out in the US, but some people in Canada now have theirs. I wonder when the EU version will start shipping from ****** to those who placed an early order?
     
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    I think the Oppo invitation was open it US and Canada. I assume there will be some difference i.e. region labels silk screen on the chassis, region lock setting etc that probably means a separate batch of players outside North America model. Some Oppo euro models in the past have also used different IEC connectors to the US model.

    Avi
     
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    according to there website they were going to start shipping around the 23rd Nov..im assuming that hasnt happened yet or we would have posters on here telling us all about the euro 93 ...

    BDP-93EU is Zone B for Blu-ray and Region 2 for DVD, Official stock from OPPO Europe.
    OPPO USA has released the OPPO BDP 93 to Limited users (19-11-10)
    Expected to ship soon for our clients (23-11-10)


    unless there were talking about the usa release shipping to there clients, either way it must be real soon.
     
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    whats the likelihood of the uk 95 being region free for blu rays ??
     
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    If you mean without adding a third party hardware mod when available I'd say 0% likelihood.

    Avi
     
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    do the specialist sellers fit the mod before shipping ??
     
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    Some have in the past. :)

    Avi
     
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    This is a mail from Oppo seen on a french forum :

     
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    I am very sorry to say it looks like Henry has been robbed. Looks like the initial EU units have been stolen meaning delays in getting the 93's to potential buyers from the official OPPO BD UK source. All the best Henry, hope this doesn't set you back too far.

    BBC News - Thieves take Blu-ray players from business near Norwich
     
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    With virtual sole-distribution and relatively few channels to market, it's not like people arn't gonna know where they come from should they surface. In any case, good luck Henry.

    ps; noticed US edition currently on eBay(US), £466(BIN)
     
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    Henry should be fine, the goods were surely insured. Its just a slight delay. Oppo/Henry should post the serial numbers of the stolen players on the web for potential buyers to take heed.
     
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