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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by docfeelgood, Oct 29, 2003.

  1. docfeelgood

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    I'm buying a new front three for music and movies (already got Monitor Audio BFX for rears).

    The four that I'm demoing are:

    B&W 602 S3 (the floorstanders - are they .e?) + centre
    Monitor Audio S1 and silver centre
    Monitor Audio S5 and silver centre
    Quad 11l and whatever centre they do.

    anyone heard/compared these and can give me an opinion would be most appreciated.

    regards

    Doc.
     
  2. Gizmo 76

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    If you got the 'Monitor Audio S1 and silver centre' you would have the same setup as me, other than my CHT-10 Sub.

    I'm very happy with the S1 and the SLCR, they sound and look great.

    I find them very musical compared to speaker's that i've owned before, they produce a very detailed treble which can really show up background noise on older recordings, this isn't a negative though as newer stuff is superb. They handle multiple basslines well, you can hear the different layer to songs, that you've probably never heard before.

    Seeing as you listed floorstanders as well i presume you have a bit of space round where the speakers will be, as the S1 will require a bit of room to work at their best, not to be stuck against a wall or the bass will become muddled!!

    I highly recommend these speakers, i do like the looks of the S6 on the MA website though;)

    Giz.
     
  3. docfeelgood

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    Just to give you an idea of the setup :)

    The room is about 13 foot long by 8 foot wide.

    RelQ200e sub
    Sony DB940 amp (prob need an upgrade)
    Tosh SD330e dvd (prob need an upgrade !)
    Silver Aniversary speaker wire.

    oh... and I'm mounting the BFX rears at around 6foot up (Mr dolby told me too).

    I don't use the sub for music.

    The front speakers will be closish to the wall... not right up against tho.

    When you say muddled... do you mean 'boomy' ?

    ta

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    What i mean by 'Muddled' is all the different basslines you can hear, become unclear and you can't define all the different beats and layers. I have a couple of test tracks which i used which have a constant beat all the way through, not in your face but in the background. When the speaker's were too close to the wall i just lost this beat, moving the speaker away from the wall rectified this. So much easier to hear what you mean than to explain it :) .

    I also use to own the Sony DB940 Amp, and i've upgraded to the 2803 a month back.

    Giz.
     
  5. docfeelgood

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    Bizzare.... thats the amp I was going to upgrade to !
    I was looking at the Denon 2900 for a DVD upgrade also.

    Have you heard any of the other speakers i've listed?
     
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    Even more bizzare i decided on this DVD player as well, will purchasing in a few weeks.

    No sorry, i haven't heard the others. Have you got a local 'Sevenoaks HiFI' where you could demo some stuff?
     
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    Now I'm scared.

    I'm demoing the above speakers at sevenoaks (it's close to where I work).

    Are you a future me ? :)
     
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    If you tell the 'Sevenoaks' is in maidstone, i might just be the future you, but if this was true the future bright;)

    I look forward to hearing what you think of the Quad, as they also do a centre speaker as well. I didn't have a chance to demo them, but reviews have always great.
     
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    :rotfl: Are you sure that your not long lost twins.... :D
     
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    docfeelgood

    Which speakers did you go for in the end. I have the Quad 11ls/Centre and am looking at the BFX for rears.

    Paul
     
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    Hi Rulocal

    In the end I went for the Quad 11Ls and centre (as you did).

    It was close between the S1's (I took both sets home) but for me the Quad's were the best all rounders (I listen to a lot of different types of music). The S1's were a bit to 'tinny' and had too much at the high-end with not enough low end for my tastes.

    The Quads were really well-balanced and just a pleasure to listen to. I never wanted to turn them down or fiddle with any settings.

    I am really pleased with them. although I think the centre was a bit expensive.

    I also have the BFX rears and they are fantastic for the price. I think I'd struggle to find anything as good (Dipole or Bipole) for the money.

    regards

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    Cheers. My next question is have you noticed any 'mismatch' between the tonally different front and rears. Secondly, what amp are you using and finally where have you located the BFX's.

    The placement of my rears will be a bit problematic with the TV in the corner and the main sofa right against the opposite wall.

    Thanks

    Paul
     
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    rulocal

    I haven't noticed any tonal mismatch.... however I'm no expert.. just a normal bloke who likes watching movies with decent sound :)

    My amp is a Sony STRDB940 (I may upgrade to a Denon later).

    The rears are mounted on the side walls pretty much alongside where we are sitting and about 180 cm's up (to the drive unit)... cos that's what Mr THX said (I think!).

    no worries
    :)
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    Thani can't really put them both on the sides as the right side wall has a window where the speaker would go. Accordingly I might put the right one on the back wall and the left one on the side. This could work well given that it would mimic the 'plane' of the front speakers which are either side of the TV which is in the corner.
     
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    That would be fine.

    The setup leaflet mentions that configuration and suggests either di-pole or bi-pole wiring (can't remember which).

    enjoy matey.
    :)
     
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    Good hear about your purchases, glad you are happy with your Quads:smashin:

    It's strange how one man's sparkle is another man's tinny(that statement doesn't quite work :lesson: ) , when i listen to my brother's setup he's got some B&W speakers with his Aura Amp and CD player. I find the lack of top end dull, it might be cause i've become use to Monitor Audio's sound:confused: What a boring world it would be if we all like the same.

    The step up to the denon amp would be a great next move for you i feel, really happy with this as well as my recent purchased Denon 2900. This really is THE buy of my system:clap:

    Giz.
     

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