Once Upon a Time in America Blu-ray AVForums Review

del_86

Active Member
Fantastic movie - one of my all time favourites.
An epic in every sense !!
 
Superb review Cas of a criminally underrated movie .I have this on my purchase list and will look forward to watching it after a gap of at least 10 years . Strangely enough I remember most if it ,such was the impression it made ,great soundtrack as well ,the harmonica moments with the youngest of the gang being especially poignant .

Interested in seeing the scenes that have been added in ,criterions version of its a mad mad mad world is the benchmark for restored antics , crazy what they did .

One word though for the cover , awful ,looks like an exec has let his pet dog loose with ms paint and an airbrush .
 

del_86

Active Member
great soundtrack as well ,the harmonica moments with the youngest of the gang being especially poignant .
I think its the only movie that after i watched it, i went out and picked up the soundtrack on cd.
Was somehow haunting and beautiful....i was mesmerised.
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
Cas, have you actually got the 229 minute disc to compare it to? The colour and contrast is markedly different between both discs, even in the footage that's common to both versions.

This latest edition is based off of a new 4K transfer, they haven't just taken the old master and slugged in the deleted scenes. Also, the movie is framed at 1.78 on this edition and not 1.85, this is par for the course for Warners (unlike their Italian Blu-ray of the longer cut which actually is in 1.85).
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
Cas, have you actually got the 229 minute disc to compare it to? The colour and contrast is markedly different between both discs, even in the footage that's common to both versions.

This latest edition is based off of a new 4K transfer, they haven't just taken the old master and slugged in the deleted scenes. Also, the movie is framed at 1.78 on this edition and not 1.85, this is par for the course for Warners (unlike their Italian Blu-ray of the longer cut which actually is in 1.85).
Haven't had the chance to do a comparison mate. I knew it was remastered for the celebrations (last year I think) but didn't know they'd changed the colour timing. The biggest thing I was trying to focus on was the extra footage - perhaps they did the colour change to make the new footage fit in better?
 

iainoco

Well-known Member
My favorite film but I would have liked to see a 4K restoration of the 229 minute version as well.
 

bullterrier

Active Member
Great review cas, strange that I only have the dvd version in my collection. I will have to buy this film now on bluray lol.
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
Just to confirm: this new scan was done at 4K by Warners' MPI division and then digitally restored by L'immagine Ritrovita in Bologna, Italy.
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
Still not sure whether to get this or not. Ive got the existing blu-ray but I still remain unconvinced by reviews of this new one. Ill probably succumb in the end though!
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
Still not sure whether to get this or not. Ive got the existing blu-ray but I still remain unconvinced by reviews of this new one. Ill probably succumb in the end though!
Mate, you shouldn't be put off. Just wait until it's a lil cheaper but defo get it.

What fans deserved - and what the film deserved - was a two-disc special edition with a 4K restoration of the 229 min cut on one disc, with the commentary and all the extras, and the extended cut on the second disc. But it's never going to happen. This is it. And we can't turn our noses up at that - it's a great film and well deserves a viewing in its attempted original version. Owning just the old 229 min cut isn't enough, you need this, it's just a question of at what price really.
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
Mate, you shouldn't be put off. Just wait until it's a lil cheaper but defo get it.

What fans deserved - and what the film deserved - was a two-disc special edition with a 4K restoration of the 229 min cut on one disc, with the commentary and all the extras, and the extended cut on the second disc. But it's never going to happen. This is it. And we can't turn our noses up at that - it's a great film and well deserves a viewing in its attempted original version. Owning just the old 229 min cut isn't enough, you need this, it's just a question of at what price really.
OK you convinced me ;). It is yet another Leone masterpiece after all but one I find difficult to fit time in to watch down the years - and that's the existing cut never mind this longer version! Ill wait till my back catalogue of blu's to watch has dropped a bit and with Xmas coming up, it might get even worse...
 

Kevo

Well-known Member
Great film and one of my all time fave OSTs. Morricone at his best. Only thing that I didn't like about this film was the naf ageing make up which looks even worse in HD. Hollywood still can't get this right!
De Niro and Woods are actually at that age now!
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
Great film and one of my all time fave OSTs. Morricone at his best. Only thing that I didn't like about this film was the naf ageing make up which looks even worse in HD. Hollywood still can't get this right!
De Niro and Woods are actually at that age now!
You forgot possibly the worst example of this as can be seen in Downton Abbey of course - Elizabeth McGovern.
 

Kevo

Well-known Member
You forgot possibly the worst example of this as can be seen in Downton Abbey of course - Elizabeth McGovern.
Of course, how could i forget! Forgot about her. Only saw her the other night in DA!
Also Jennifer Connelly as a younger Deborah
 
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Kevo

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Is the 'Collector's Edition' with booklet released in the UK? I'm having trouble finding it anywhere.
 

Roohster

Distinguished Member
After having this sat on my shelf for ages, I finally found four hours free to watch it all in one sitting.

No real need for me to do a general review of how amazing this film is, so I'll just comment on this edition... it's cleaned up nicely and not overdone, definitely the best that it's ever looked.

Now, onto the newly found scenes, and I suspect some will disagree, but...
Totally unnecessary.

A couple of them stand out like a sore thumb (the Louise Fletcher mausoleum scene in particular), and in my opinion, add nothing.

The conversation with the chauffeur sets up the unpleasant scene in the back of the car, but again it's not really needed, looks awful and the audio is so muffled it's painful to watch.

I thought the ageing mentioned above was pretty well done, De Niro does indeed look pretty much like he looks now.
 

Karlin

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Very odd this went OOP so quick and I missed out faffing about. Amazon.es had loads but they disappeared too -but just bagged one for €40 shipped.

If you're after one keep an eye on their link

Just like Amazon.it with Arrow's Videodrome LE these stores stock imported stuff.
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
It went OOP because the distribution deal between Warners and Regency has come to an end, those titles have shifted to Fox. It'll be back on the market soon enough...
 

Karlin

Well-known Member
Thanks, wow, that's unexpected, Warner have also lost Mann's Heat and Hanson's L.A. Confidential.

Forever Warner in my mind.

Looks like Fox wanted them more though.
 

Geoff_D

Distinguished Member
Same with JFK, that'll always be a Warners movie to me, but the Fox Blu-ray looks better so I went with that one. :D
 

Karlin

Well-known Member
Got my Warner copy worked out at £30.21 all in.

Nice.


Eeeeew:



Very odd but I suppose it used to be with TESE in the UK:
 

Kevo

Well-known Member
After having this sat on my shelf for ages, I finally found four hours free to watch it all in one sitting.

No real need for me to do a general review of how amazing this film is, so I'll just comment on this edition... it's cleaned up nicely and not overdone, definitely the best that it's ever looked.

Now, onto the newly found scenes, and I suspect some will disagree, but...
Totally unnecessary.

A couple of them stand out like a sore thumb (the Louise Fletcher mausoleum scene in particular), and in my opinion, add nothing.

The conversation with the chauffeur sets up the unpleasant scene in the back of the car, but again it's not really needed, looks awful and the audio is so muffled it's painful to watch.

I thought the ageing mentioned above was pretty well done, De Niro does indeed look pretty much like he looks now.
Totally agree about the unnecassary added scenes, they look poor and add nothing.

Don't agree about the 'ageing De Biro'. Looks nothing liuke De Niro now !
TBH, Hollywood have never been good at ageing make-up in movies, even today, but they always doe well at making people look younger though :)
 

Shazzerman

Active Member
Totally agree about the unnecassary added scenes, they look poor and add nothing.

Don't agree about the 'ageing De Biro'. Looks nothing liuke De Niro now !
TBH, Hollywood have never been good at ageing make-up in movies, even today, but they always doe well at making people look younger though :)
It would be decidedly eerie if he did. But, in the context of the film made in the early 1980s, De Niro does look convincing as a man in his 60s - whether he looks like his real old-age self is moot.
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
They got someone else's 'old age' effects wrong in the film - not De Niro. A certain Downton Abbey actor no less..
 

Shazzerman

Active Member
They got someone else's 'old age' effects wrong in the film - not De Niro. A certain Downton Abbey actor no less..
I presume this is Elizabeth McGovern (never seen Downtown). There is a theory that she doesn't look any older in the 1960s part of the story because these scenes are imagined by Noodles' in a drug-induced fever-dream. Always thought it was odd that you would put obvious effort into making De Niro and Woods (and some others, like Weld - years since I saw the film so I can't remember all of the characters who appear in both timelines) look plausibly old, and seem to forget about McGovern - who looks nothing like Jennifer Connelly does today, by the way.
 

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