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Okay, So How Good Is the Z2?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Dimmy, Dec 4, 2003.

  1. Dimmy

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    And is it worth double a Panny AE200, is it twice as good?

    Be using it with a Denon 2800mkII, Sky Digital, PS2 and - for sheer amusement - a JVC SVHS VCR.

    And, has anybody used a Z2 with a Brite-View yet? (seems like a good idea to me).

    Dimmy :).
     
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    I got my Z2 on an Ivojo pre order, so it cost 1185 or so. I would say it was worth the current asking price though. There is someone on this forum who is looking to upgrade from an ae300 to a z2, so it looks like its hitting the spot for most folk compared to a 200 :)
     
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    Yep my friend fred123go has upgraded from a ae200 to a Z2 and the difference is large, i'm sure he'll reply in a minute anyway to give you a more detailed analysis.

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    haha 1 min, yeah it is a big step up dimmy
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  5. Dimmy

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    That a G5 powermac I see in your Avtar Frankie?

    The trouble with projectors is you always end up asking yourself 'Why don't I just spend a little more'... I.E. choose a Sim2 Domino 20 over a PLV-Z2. Hopefully the Z2 is the kind of projector I can draw a line at for a few years to come...

    Fred - dunno if you read my thread in the Projector Screens forum, but I have the rather cool idea of buying a motorised screen for whichever projector, the dropping of which is activated by a 12V Trigger output on my AV amp when the 'DVD' input is selected, and rolls itself back up when the amp is switched off or another input source is selected.

    How cool is that? ;)

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    Dimmy - only a little off topic - but how could you mistake that for a G5??!! I would love one of them but it is actually my well loved G4 cube one of the smallest ever computers (A 7 inch cube) and probably the most beautiful too. :) I loves macs btw hehe

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    Difficult to tell what it is in a 9 Pixel Avtar ;), and yes, I'm a MAC man myself too... mmm, G4 Powerbook/iPod.
     
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    yeah dimmy that thing does sound rather good-but i am not really a DIY man myself.
    btw dimmy if you are looking to get it i am getting another good deal through this bloke on ebay on the Z2, not as good as before as demand is high but i will be selling it for something like £1250 so keep yours eyes open!
    cheers
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    Thanks for the heads-up Fred. I may buy a projector now-ish, or I may get the Servo 15 in the classifieds that Cyrus is selling (if he ever decides to say anything), and put the projector off until after christmas...

    Either way the Z2 is looking likely.

    This rather cool electrical idea of mine is going to cost me £2K-ish in total, which includes the Projector, Screen, Wiring and an Amp upgrade.

    Pretty good ha?
     
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    yeah thats pretty good stuff dimmy, which amp you looking to get?, i am getting the Z2 pretty soon and at £1250 i think it is pretty damn cheap-i will check for pixels before hand and check warranty and everything so no worries.
    i've only got a cheapo £100ish pull up screen atm, 6ft wide, which will do for the moment!
    and upgrades-not for a while!
    cheers mate
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    You could really do with spending some more on a screen Fred - no good having such a good projector and a screen which absorbs light! It's a worthwhile (and probably the cheapest/most effective) upgrade.

    The amp - I'm unsure of. The AVR2803 was the original plan, purely for the 12V Trigger output. But I'm thinking perhaps I should save up a little more and buy a Pre/Power combo, do my speakers more justice. Time will tell...
     
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    nah my screen is fine-i really don't see how a better screen can improve the picture, it is matt white with a black back.
    Hehe get a lexi DC-2 and rotel 1075 like me ;)
    fred
     
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    An exceedingly good idea if I do say so myself :D
     
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    fred,

    screen matters big style...... there are enormous improvements to be had
     
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    yeah but as you guys know my room is less than an adequate home cinema size and the fact that my walls are sloping-and the fact that it is not dedicated means that a fixed one would be out of the question. it will do for now!
    cheers though
    Fred
    p.s especially since i have £0 left in my account!
     
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    Yes, it is really isn't it :laugh:

    No way. I'm with you on the RMB1075 front, but I couldn't survive without PLII processing - I'd crack up within a matter of days.

    I wasn't going to suggest a fixed screen, just one with higher Gain than the 'Matt White' standard one you own now ;).
     
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    Apparently not such a good idea with LCD PJ's
     
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    Elaborate if you will...
     
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    I'm not the person to get technical on this but, I'm using a matt white 6ft screen and I have the Z2 11ft away on low lamp mode and the iris fully closed and its still way bright enough.

    Apparently high gain screens create hot spot problems with LCD PJ's
     
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    Hmm...

    A Technical know-how forum member hopefully will pipe in on this thread and explain this to me...
     
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    And me! :laugh:
     
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    Does this mean I have to buy a cheap nasty screen then? Just to keep the brightness levels tamed? :(?
     
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    No.

    Quality isn't all about gain.

    For a LCD PJ a matte white screen material is what you need. Buy the best quality you can afford in that material.
    I'm very pleased with my DRH and I think it was good value for money, but only time will tell to how long it stays looking good.

    Pic
     
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    Or a grey screen like a Firehawk or Greyhawk?
     
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    Thats it, confuse things :laugh:
     
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    dimmy-logic 7 out performs pro logic 11 in every way...well it is reported too
    fred
     
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    Found this shootout style 'review' on hometheaterdiscussion.com:

    This projector industry is really getting exciting or absurd depending on how you look at it! I belong to a small HD club (5 members) in my area and we often compete against each other in a very friendly way of course. We are always trying to see who's projector puts out the best image, who has the better screen etc. Myself and one other member own X1's. Another one has the Infocus 5700, another one has an Infocus 7200 that was installed just six months ago and finally Robin has a new Sanyo Z2 that he recieved Friday. We all went over to his house to help him get set up. At the moment he is using a screen that was given to him by one of the members who bought the material from Ebay for $25. I want to tell you, the picture from his Z2 was incredible! I know I was sick about it! (in the sense that I just bought my X1 three months ago! Why didn't I wait?) The biggest dissapointment I sensed was from the 5700 owner. Yes, his projector does put out a great picture. It is very beautiful to say the least. And so is the 7200 projector. That picture is extremely nice also! But these guys spent over $5,000 and $6,000 respectively for their projectors and for WHAT! I mean the picture from that Z2 was every bit as good as the 5700 and 7200! And he only spent a little over $1900! Where is the logic here? How can you spend $3 to $4,000 more for a projector and IF you are lucky, come away with a picture that is marginally better. Is the difference in picture quality worth that much more? After seeing the Z2, I THINK NOT! I'm lucky, I only spent $1,000. My X1 produces a nice picture on DVD's, but it is totally blown out of the water by the Z2. Needless to say, I will be upgrading to the Z2 after the first of the year. But again, I think about all those high priced projectors out there. How do they justify charging so much? How can Sanyo, charge so little for a projector that frankly, produce's a picture that is without exaggeration, just as good if not better? I don't know. But what I do know is that somebody out there is making a lot of profit on projectors that when compared to the Z2, should be selling for the same price or certainly be somewhere in the ball park!

    There, I got my frustrations out!

    Thank you
     

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