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Oh No - Not a Best 36" CRT Question ..

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Garfield, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. Garfield

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    I just asked on the HDTV forum for a good 36" or better crt TV that has HDTV capability, it seems such a beast in any decent form may not exist.

    I apologise therefore for asking the same question again here (omitting the HDTV requirement unless somebody comes up with one)

    My preferences for the TV are :-

    1, Picture Quality, must be 36" or greater and pin sharp with good colour and contrast.

    2, Sound, Not too fussed about it being Dolby etc - who the hell broadcasts in Dolby anyhow.

    3, Must have MINUMUM 2 RGB capable Scarts with an additional 1 or 2 for low end devices such as VCR. Optical I/O would be nice.

    4, Must be reasonably up to date and not be too obsolete (i.e. still listed by manufacturers if not actively sold).

    I am looking for a list of sets that I can look for at good prices maybe even open box. I just missed a Toshiba 36DT29 for £600 and a Sony 36HQ100 for £540 because I was busy checking out if they were any good - and I still don't know if they are when compared to whatever else is about.

    I would consider a rear projection if anyone knows of one that meets the criteria above AND can be seen without the curtains closed.

    TIA ....
     
  2. sawtooth

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    36hq100 for £540! where?! Like you I am on the look out for a 36" widescreen ideally HDTV capable. Personally I would like to keep with CRT and I understand that the superb Sony 36hq100 is now obsolete and difficult to find. Sadly I dont think Sony will be making more CRT's.
     
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    where'd you see that the hq100 was HD. or am i missing the point entirely. is it true hd were talkking about or just a high def screen?
     
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    thats a decent telly, but it doesn't have the progressive scan capability for terrestrial tv and all external connections that the 36pd30 and 36pd50 had and has(respectively).

    what i mean is you can see the pixels at about a metre away from the tv, but you can't at all on the acuity sets i just mentioned.
     
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    Its still worth putting on the list though just for value for money. :thumbsup:
     
  7. PANASONIC MAN

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    absolutely!!

    not having a dig man, honest!
     
  8. Garfield

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    The HQ100 was at unbeatable.co.uk as an open box item.

    I was busy finding out what it had review wise when it 'went' ...

    As for the HD I'm not sure about the HQ100 to be fair ...

    I have heard too many bad reports of the PD30, not much about the PD50, good noises about the Toshiba 48B though
     
  9. PANASONIC MAN

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    to be honest i have read a lot of bad press about the pd30 and 50 but, as i'm sure you're now aware i work for panasonic, i've only ever seen tv's returned for geometry problems. and i've got a 36pd30!

    granted though mine has been in the shop twice for geometry tweaks.

    as for the toshiba, i'm afraid ive never seen anything on them.

    Just for reference sake the pd30 and pd50 has o screen res of 2376x833 making it more than capable of a high def image, if only thy'd put the hd processing in there too. SHAME!!! TRU SHAME!
     
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    What would make me choose a PD30 versus a PD50 - is the PD50 worth a longer wait - there are a few cheapish PD30's knocking about if £750 is cheap ....

    There are lots of 36FS76 Sony knocking about - are they worth it - they don't do progressive scan though I don't think ....
     
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    theres really no difference in them.

    the pd50 has got a black frame and a "new 3d comb" for improving contrast, but i cant really differentiate between them.

    im really chuft with mine, reallly!
     
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    you're right about the sony not having progressive, or even a component input for that matter, saves itself with the 4 scarts though. progressive is a neccessity for me though.
     
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    Well I like the look of the panasonics but the Toshiba 36ZP48 is winning at the moment, any others?
     
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    More than happy with my 36PD30 after a year. Bit of a crappy piccie on Sky, but thats mostly due to Sky's cheapskate bitrate. Give it a decent DVD, and she shine's though. You can pick them up quite cheap if you look around as even the PD50 is gonna soon be discontinued. Panny Man, do ya have the latest gossip on that one, as if true it could lead to more bargains !
     
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    36pd50 has already gone and the new marketing update for may doesn't have the 32pd50 in it anymore.

    apparently they said it was costing too much to make, and they couldn't sell it for enough cos of other competition.

    It'll sure go down in the history books as the best picture from any source ive ever seen.

    p.s. your sky will look amazing through a scart to component converter.

    and make sure you use decent leads. (i'm up to nearly £700 on my leads alone now)
     
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    Please explain Sky issue ...

    I have long been dissappointed with the pixellation and downgraded image of what is SUPPOSED to be a digital broadcast, the colour depth is clearly massively reduced.

    How will Scart to component improve this - what sort of components do you use to achieve the 'conversion' - I assume it is RGB to component - and why would I sacrifice using component from my DVD for the Sky? (I only use RGB at the moment as my set doesn't take anything (two Scart and only one of those is RGB) - one of the reasons for the upgrade.
     
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    a lot of that problem really is the cable you use, ie the scart lead.

    aim for about £50 and up and youre getting quality not just looks.

    SKY is notorious for reducing its bitrate to squeeze in extra channels, then once the channels have paid for themselves, they pay for extra bandwith and evrything goes back the way it was. TILL A NEW CHANNEL COMES OUT.

    as for the component issue, i use my av receiver as a switching box for up to 3 component feeds, comes in real handy.

    However if this is not a possibility ($$$$££££) for you then never sacrifice dvd progressive scan for your sky. You'll never get sky to look as good as a dvd, so its a waste to have two normal looking feeds, when you can have sky and an amazing dvd picture.

    just try upgrading your scart to a decent one for sky, if it doesnt give what you'd expect then your only haggling the shop to give you about £50 back.

    As for the cables i use, i don't own a cable that isn't ixos.

    being in the trade i get to have the new stuff before it even arrives in the UK (leads-wise anyway) my components are XHV904100, two sets of XHV804 x one, a couple of long sub cables with splitters at the sub,, various opticals and scarts. My scarts are all XHT801. look them up on eBay,, you can get them mega cheap.
     
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    The JVC HV32P37 is a good TV as long as you have Sky Digital. It comes into its own there. It's a good price. Three Scarts (two RGB), component video, composite/S-video tucked round the side.

    The processing's adjustable but the scan mode is always a 75Hz system, where as the Acuity models give some variety there. Movement is fine but there is sometimes a little visible flicker.
     
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    can't be bad for £514 (take a look at pricerunner.co.uk) but it hasn't got the progressive scan so vital with a component connection.

    ticks a lot of boxes though!
     
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    Yes it has, I've seen it running in Progressive.
     
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    sorry, just going by what pricerunner said.

    Should've looked at JVC's website before posting i suppose
     
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    The DP30 or 50 is high on the list next to the Toshiba 36ZP48 that I can get for just under £800, the panny is a little too high at £1k+ , not sure if I trust Ebay TV's. I confess I studied the specs of the JVC too and saw no mention of Progressive scan - this gets harder and harder ..... for me progressive is not an option it is a must have.

    I have a Pioneer VSX-1014-S THX certified amp that is relatively well endowed for video switching, my TV is not up to the same standard I'm afraid - YET !!. I also have one of the older Sony digiboxes with the optical out, I believe it is the one that ended Skys relationship with Sony because Sony refused to lower their standards as demanded by Sky - in particular get rid of the optical. Doesn't stop the damn thing locking up on a weekly basis though.

    The scarts I have were expensive I thought at £30, Just searched e-Bay - not a single XHT801 - wouldn't mind borrowing one for a day or so to see if it really is worthwhile - just a sceptical old duffer that I am ...
     
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    It's fine, I make mistakes all the time (unless you study the market religiously it's impossible not to!) :)

    I reckon the HV32P37 is a better TV than the IDTV HD32D40 by the way, the slightly older analogue version seems to have better reliability.
     
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    using the amp is great, one cable to the tv (well three if you want to be pedantic) and when you switch audio sources tv changes too.

    I'm the same though, couldn't live without the progressive input now i've got it.

    Cheapest i can find it with three minutes of looking is £1078 on dealtime.co.uk.

    You could buy mine if you lived near wolverhampton west mids.

    I'm getting a sony lcd from japan KDX-46Q005.

    FULL HIGH DEF sony qualia. (1920 x 1080)
     
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    You'd better believe it, in our workshops IDTV makes for about 70-80% of all tv's for repair. with sky and cable, who needs it anyway. Its limited in channels, slow and no sport or porn (unless you get top-up tv)
     
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    And how much would you be asking?

    I guess this ain't going to fit in a 5 series BM saloon though .....
     
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    Could you both also read the forum rules..........................
     
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    Please create a classified advert if you are serious about selling your gear. Doing so outside of the classified forum is against the rules.
    Please also reduce your signature to 4 lines as per the forum rules.
     
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    HornyDragon / Mods as far as I'm concerned it was a passing remark to which I expressed an interest he advertised nothing except that he may sell, I did nothing other than indicate I may be interested if he did.

    I have read the rules and as far as I'm concerned haven't broken them, of course if people want to be retentive about it ban me.
     
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    Coo, back to the topic: I am also in a market for a large, progressive scan CRT. I, too, am trying to decide between a Panasonic and Toshiba. As far as I can tell, the only thing left for me to do is to compare them next to each other, but I cannot find a showroom whith both 36" models in stock! I live in London - can anyone give me any ideas?
     

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