OFSTED in tomorrow

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  1. Pecker

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    OFSTED are visiting tomorrow and Friday.

    Please feel free to pray to your God, or just fire off an email to Richard Dawkins' therapist.

    God Save The Kinks.

    Steve W
     
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    Feel for you fella.

    Out of interest, how many boxes are your stressed managers expecting you to tick?

    ;)

    Edit: Forgot to say, good luck.
     
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    Good luck! :)
    My ofsted inspection was back in November and we were graded as a good this time round. Very pleased with that and we all got a couple of bottles of wine from the headmaster as a thanks and well done.
    It helped that we'd just had our open day so had the school looking pretty smart already!
     
  4. Axel40

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    Lets tell im we're making a surprise inspection so they can get everything ready for us.

    Bad kids on the Bus to the Zoo, good kids...well, they get nothing cos you can rely on them.
     
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    I always think it is stupid that OFSTED give notice of when they are going to arrive as they won't get a true view.
     
  6. Pecker

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    We used to get 6 months notice. This is now known as. 'No notice' inspection. They were initially going to just turn up, but schools said this may cause problems if there were trips out, or the SLT weren't in.

    So now you get a phone call between 12:00 and 12:30 the day before.

    There's not a lot if 'cheating' anyone can do in a few hours.

    We're coming of the back of two consecutive 'Outstanding' OFSTED inspections, and we feel the pressure to keep that up.

    Anyway, briefing starts in five minutes - here we go, strap yourselves in, eyes down for a full house...

    Steve W
     
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    Thats still some pretty decent warning, I know I could get alot of things 'swept under the carpet' in that time in my job.

    All we get is a knock on the door and "Hi, we are from XX and we are here to Audit you"

    Ace, cancel all appointments and spend the day bluffing :laugh:
     
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    Really? Around here it is like 'show us *all* the documentation for randomly selected projects x, y and z'. Good luck writing that in a day :)
     
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    My wife is a TA in a Primary School that is on Special Measures from Ofsted. She only started a few months ago so is nothing to do with her but the previous Head lost the plot prior to retirement and the school has been gong downhill the last few years.

    Very irritating that it wasn't spotted earlier as both our kids are there as well.
    So we are all for regular, unannounced inspections.

    Its a bit tough on my wife at the moment now as she is being constantly assessed as she learns her new role

    As soon as the Inspection is announced the day before the Teachers all go into panic mode and end up working all night to ensure they have covered al the bases and the lessons planned for that day are adequate
     
  10. Rob8980

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    I remember being at school and being asked by my economics teacher, if I didn't mind not turning in for the next lesson because there was an OFSTED inspector in! I didn't even think I was that bad.
     
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    That sort of thing used to happen, but I think they've found ways of spotting if anyone tries that on.

    Just been told I've been graded Good with Outstanding features.

    Steve W
     
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    nice eyes or did you shave your legs this morning?
     
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    Congratulations Steve :thumbsup:
     
  14. CooperUK

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    We're expecting them in the next week or so...hoorah.

    It will be wonderful to have my 16 years of experience summed up in a random 40 min (max) observation by a complete stranger who knows nothing about my students.

    :p
     
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    Damn OFSTEAD and their **surprise** visits :laugh:

    Mate, we get 2 weeks notice min and it's all hands to the pumps.

    Bad kids are sent away on trips on the day of the visit, teaching staff are put through the wringer, EVERYONE has to hit the building at around 6:30-7.00 a.m. for days before the visit to get everything as is.

    What a crock of do-do ;)
     
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    Congratulations Steve on getting a good result.
     
  17. imightbewrong

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    Yes, congratulations for a rating worthy of the AVF WAGs thread :)
     
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    Really - Ofstead fell for that?


    I remember when Ofstead turned up at our 6th form.

    I had an atrocious English Language teacher who turned up late to 80% of our lessons, and sometimes didn't turn up at all. Plus she barely taught us anything, I always wondered how she could possibly be a teacher - she seemed to have no knowledge of the course at all.

    Well, an Ofstead inspector turned up to one of our lessons and our teacher condensed everything single thing she had taught us over the last 6 months into 1 super lesson. She probably got a fantastic report.
     
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    Surely if things are run well the OFSTED should be a formality. That they don't do snap inspections shows the government don't want to turn over too many rocks or they may get some blowback.
     
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    WW, when the dust has settled I'll let you know some of the things they do to measure performance - it'll make your hair curl.

    I'm not allowed to discuss our grading as it's not official, but I'll post later when I can.

    Two days of edge-of-you-seat nerves. It's one of those things you can't describe, you have to experience it. Like sex, or having your leg chewed off by a tiger.

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    Let me guess, it's less like sex and more like having your leg chewed off by a tiger? :laugh:
     
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    It's like being used for sex by a tiger that is simultaneously chewing your leg off.
     
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    What are the actual ramifications/benefits of the various ratings?
     
  24. Pecker

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    Crickey!

    Okay, I'm not 100% sure, but something like this:

    Outstanding - Technically, never get an OFSTED again, but probably not for five years or more.

    Good - No OFSTED for 3 years. At that time a 'Desktop' inspection will be done, and you get 1 more year's grace.

    Requires Improvement (formerly 'Satisfactory') - OFSTED give you a while to improve before returning (6-12, I think).

    Inadequate - Back on a couple of months.

    Inadequate and in Special Measures - Back in 3 months, and if you're no better we sack the Head.

    Something like that.

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    Thanks. That makes it seems it's rather about having fewer inspections, which seems a bit circular :) I guess it's similar to our audits, where the better we do, the longer we get before the next one.
     
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    The daft thing, people might think that, as a teacher, I'm defensive, but I'm also a dad.

    Freya's school was put in special measures the other month, and it's absolutely crazy. I'm very pleased indeed with the school.

    Knowing a bit about the stats, and looking at RAISEonline, it's a decent school.

    I've no doubt there are things that could be better, but to say it should be graded the bottom grade of five is ridiculous.

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    I think the whole thing needs a re-think.

    Scrap OFSTED inspections (as is) for most schools. Certainly send them in to check out a bit of paperwork, and to make sure the nazis haven't taken over, but if the figures stack up don't do a full inspection.

    Schools where the results are spiralling down, get OFSTED in to see what's going wrong, then pair them up with a similar school that's going we'll.

    Make OFSTED an organisation for good, rather than a threat.

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    I don't think the frequency/time of inspections changes with the scores, our last inspection was a satisfactory and the latest was a good, but there was just over 2 years between inspections.
    It was implied to me by an inspector that they aim for 3 years between inspections regardless of the previous grading.
     
  29. Pecker

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    If you're a good it's 'up to 3 years +1'. They'll come in earlier if the stats take a hit.

    No 'satisfactory' anymore. Apparently 'satisfactory' is no longer 'satisfactory'.

    Should someone supply these idiots with dictionaries?

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    I think satisfactory is now 'requiring improvement' isn't it?

    We were quite surprised with our good last year as in the first day of assessment we had 3 teacher graded at 4. Two of those were in my department (science). One of them spoke to the ofsted team and asked to be reassessed though, and pulled his grade up to a 1 which is a much truer reflection of his teaching.
     

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