O2 Joggler in wall install with Squeezeplay/box & Squeeze server

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  1. c13ugg

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    Hello,

    Exclaimer.... Try this at your own risk. I have this running on 3 joggler devices.

    Thought i'd add a thread for anyone wanting to play their music library remotely at a reasonable cost.

    I have

    O2 Joggler - with stock os
    Amp - Sony 5400es
    3.5mm jack to RCA
    PC Running Logitech Squeeze Server 7.7
    Kitchen Ceiling B&W CCM80's x2
    iPhone remote control

    In my case, I wanted to have a device capable of playing my iTunes library sunk into the wall. The O2 jogglers we're going cheap £50 so I decided I'd try one of those. As standard its more a desktop calendar and picture frame. The chrome stand is used as a heat skink, however in my case i have some space behind the unit and it doesn't get hot during use.

    So to start, i hack sawed off the stand on the O2 Joggler. I placed it face forward and thinly drew around the face to create a template for cutting the plaster board. I cut inside the line as the joggler has an angled edge which allows it to wedge its self in the wall.

    You'll see that in this case I have it connected to an ethernet cable. That was because I significantly changed the kitchen and planned for a cable in preparation. That said, it works completely fine using the built in wireless as demonstrated on my other jogglers. I also have a 3.5mm jack that links to the zone 2 of my sony amp to power 2 B&W ceiling speakers. This isn't necessary as the joggler has its own built in speakers.

    Next, the server software. Its available from here. It works on linux, windows, netgear ready naz, mac etc etc etc...

    In my case, I wanted to play my music in my iTunes library. I'm fortunate in the fact that I selected the option for iTunes to manage my library, so all my music is stored in one folder under iTunes. You can set the software to search on you HDD in any or every folder. It uses the meta data to display album art and artist info etc which is nice. It also provide access for nearly every radio station on the planet with 4000 stations.

    In my case, the server software also uses DLNA so i can stream video content to my iphones and playstation 3.

    Next step, you need to install the squeezebox SW on the Joggler. Do this at your own risk.

    Step one, you need to enable SSH / telnet on you joggler. You do this by following these steps Enable joggler SSH.

    Step two, install squeezebox SW on joggler here

    One cool feature, you can remote control from the iPhone.

    I have downloaded the app which allows you to control the entire experience remotely!

    I've attached some pics of my install.....

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    This looks well cool, so you have a server with all your music on it and the joggler can link to that via wireless?
     
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    Hi Inzaman,

    Thats right, I use a desktop PC with win 7 to host all my media. The software support radio, video, picture and music streaming.

    It streams music no problem over wireless. Video work also, but if the bitrate is too high it will stutter due the the wireless bandwidth. I convert videos to between 300 - 500mb and they work okay.

    C13UGG
     
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    Love that, looks awesome and you'd have expected it to have cost a lot more.
     
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    Does it go to sleep if you don't use it for a bit or have a power button on screen?
     
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    Hi Towns,

    there are a number of different options...

    From the ones I've seen you can

    • Set to go to sleep and turn display off after certain amount of time
      Play pictures from facebook or similar
      Set a digital or analogue clock.
      when playing
      when stopped
      change delay
      these are just a few

    On mine, I have it set to clock after 15 minutes or close and use the joggler clock.

    I'm pretty sure it has a light sensor and changes the brightness accordingly
     
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    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

    You gonna try and finish off the edges? Looks a tiny bit rough
     
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    Hi C13ugg

    Just had a look at the links you provided for getting the squeezeplayer software onto the joggler. i used the Easy way (new version) in the link you provided to enable SSH / telnet on the joggler did you use that one as well, only ask as when i plug my formatted usb stick with downloaded file unzipped to it, all that happens is it boots up and goes to the normal menu screen, am I suppossed to be seeing something else as I cant seem to enable the SSH and SCP files.

    Any help greatly received

    Thanks
     
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    Hi DJMike,
    I'm in the process of jogglering my home, have bought 5 on fleebay, the first 2 have arrived so far and I'm running squeezebox server on a win7 pc with squeezeplay on each joggler with native OS.

    I too have followed the 'easy way' to gain SSH access in order to download the birdslikewires.co.uk squeezeplay code - fantastic work by those guys and I will donate some beer funds to them next week when the other jogglers arrive - but with my second one I had the same symptom you describe and thought uhoh this one might have a problem reading from USB.. but actually it was the software version being incorrect. Because I'd already configured that joggler on the wireless network though, by the time I rebooted it, it had already updated to the June 2010 o/s version and took the SSH configuration from the USB stick no problem second time around.

    So I'm hoping you hadn't got yours on the network with internet access at the point you had the symptom - go into settings > about and check the software version there....

    HTH :rolleyes:

    Nick
     
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    hi nicksee

    Im running the latest version of the software June 2010, I think I've narrowed the problem down to the USB stick not being compatable as I get an error message on telnet saying it cant access port 23 apprantley reading on another forum you get this message when the USB stick is not compatable with the joggler, will pick up a scan disc USB stick today and see how I get on with it.

    I take it I'm right in saying when you open up telnet you type 'o' for open then type the IP address of the joggler and then all should run fine from then

    Cheers

    Mike
     
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    DJMike

    apologies to C13Ugg for thread hijack (in my defence I did discuss holes in our kitchen wall today with my other half for jogglerisation :smashin:)...

    sounds like you are onto the snag then, on telnet I can't confirm the 'o' for open as I used a freeware program called PuTTY which I found out about whilst doing some home automation stuff, on that you just tick the SSH box and enter the joggler's ip address and up comes the window of the telnet session.
     
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    Nicksee

    Ive now tried 3 different USB sticks and used the PuTTY software, I can mange to type the username but it seems to freeze after that so I cant type the password, any ideas would be great as Im getting a bit peed off with it now as it shouldnt be as hard as this

    cheers
     
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    Forum won't let me reply to you Mike sorry - so I'm trying to edit my post instead... sorry you are having such a hard time, my first two behaved perfectly which will probably pee you off even more but at least you know it should be easy!

    Just looking again at the birdslikewires instructions below.. what username are you trying? Note that the easy method for native os doesn't use the username instructed below..

    First, log in to your Joggler using the Terminal app on Mac OS X or Ubuntu, or PuTTY on Windows. If you have followed the SSH instructions linked to above your username will be ‘letmeinssh’ and the password will be ‘joggler1234’ by default.
     
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    Hi Nick

    Just wondered what link your using to download the ssh as I was using the one where the username and password are joggler

    Cheers
     
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    I also use the joggler but use squeezeslaves running on a sheevaplug.... Should be able to do the same with Raspberry pi's.


    The audio quality on the joggler audio out is terrible - using the slave with a usb audio out solves this!
     
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    Hi DJmike,

    I was doing this one a MAC to begin with and there were issues with the extraction. Not all the right files we're extracted, there were some with certain extensions that I think were hidden. The files I have are as follows.

    I have a 3rd joggler that I haven't done so I'll try and write some more instructions.....

    First, the joggler IP address.

    Settings > Network > its at the bottom
    in my case its 192.168.1.169

    DL and extract the SSH - be careful, I needed to do this on windows as I dont think it copied all the files on my MAC. This is what it should look like on a MAC

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    This is what I extracted on my Win PC to an external pen drive

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    Turn joggler off at mains or unplug. Then connect your USB pen and switch back on. ( you will not notice any difference)

    I've copied my installation experience below, I typed part that are italic and red. if you're using windows you should be able to use Putty.

    C13ugg-MacBook-Pro:~ C13ugg$ ssh [email protected]
    The authenticity of host '192.168.1.169 (192.168.1.169)' can't be established.
    RSA key fingerprint is 8d:4d:f3:f5:00:f9:28:29:84:0c:50:cd:80:10:a9:b5.
    Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? y
    Please type 'yes' or 'no': yes
    Warning: Permanently added '192.168.1.169' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
    [email protected]'s password: joggler
    # cd /media
    # wget http://birdslikewires.co.uk/download/joggler/squeezeplay/sqp.sh
    Connecting to birdslikewires.co.uk (64.90.54.137:80)
    sqp.sh 100% |*******************************| 14885 00:00:00 ETA
    # chmod +x ./sqp.sh
    # ./sqp.sh installcd /media

    SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native) v1.31 (7.7.1-9561)
    =====================================================================
    birdslikewires.co.uk


    This script installs or removes SqueezePlay for Joggler.

    WARNING! It is entirely possible that this script could cause your
    Joggler to stop working, as it modifies essential system
    files. Every care has been taken to avoid this happening,
    but you must only continue if you accept this risk.

    No responsibility will be accepted for any damage and this
    software is provided without warranty.

    Press <ENTER> to installcd, or CTRL-C to exit.
    "I pressed enter"

    If you find SqueezePlay for Joggler useful, you might like to make
    a contribution towards it's hosting. If you would like some info,
    please visit birds like wires | Contributions
    Thanks!

    # chmod +x ./sqp.sh
    # ./sqp.sh install

    SqueezePlay for Joggler (Native) v1.31 (7.7.1-9561)
    =====================================================================
    birdslikewires.co.uk


    This script installs or removes SqueezePlay for Joggler.

    WARNING! It is entirely possible that this script could cause your
    Joggler to stop working, as it modifies essential system
    files. Every care has been taken to avoid this happening,
    but you must only continue if you accept this risk.

    No responsibility will be accepted for any damage and this
    software is provided without warranty.

    Press <ENTER> to install, or CTRL-C to exit.


    If you find SqueezePlay for Joggler useful, you might like to make
    a contribution towards it's hosting. If you would like some info,
    please visit birds like wires | Contributions
    Thanks!


    Installing the Little App Launcher v1.08...

    Connecting to birdslikewires.co.uk (64.90.54.137:80)
    launcher108.tgz 100% |*******************************| 43106 00:00:00 ETA

    Checking that server will launch on boot... done.
    Installation of Little App Launcher is complete.


    Installing SqueezePlay...

    Fetching SqueezePlay v1.31 (7.7.1-9561)...
    Connecting to birdslikewires.co.uk (64.90.54.137:80)
    squeezeplay-thinned- 100% |*******************************| 6208k 00:00:00 ETA

    Fetching SqueezePlay for Joggler components v1.31...
    Connecting to birdslikewires.co.uk (64.90.54.137:80)
    squeezeplay-joggler- 64% |************************************************************************************ |squeezeplay-joggler- 100% |*******************************| 5999k 00:00:00 ETA

    Fetching the launcher component...
    Connecting to birdslikewires.co.uk (64.90.54.137:80)
    squeezeplay-launcher 100% |*******************************| 5974 --:--:-- ETA

    Decompressing... done.
    Adding launcher... this takes a few moments... done. "Joggler rebooted"

    SqueezePlay installation is complete.

    #
     
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    The audio on mine seems to be okay. I have to connected via RCA to my amp? Maybe that improves the quality?
     
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    Hi again Mike - forum still won't let me reply in the thread, most weird... anyway just to let you know I had one of the five jogglers that wouldn't let me SSH into it with uname Joggler pword Joggler but instead wanted uname 'letmeinssh' and pword 'joggler1234' I presume because its previous user had already installed the SSH mod. You are linking to the right place though.
     
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    just got a joggler from another AV member... great bit of kit...

    managed to install squeezeplay now...first time i've ever tried that sort of thing...!

    got a question.... my music on my mac is kept on an external drive but i cant quite work out how to point the squeezeplay to use this drive...it just seems to want to use the default itunes music folder....is there a way of changing this...?

    Nick
     
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    BTW nice install in the wall.... might try and do the same but in the bathroom....!
     
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    C13Ugg

    thanks for that did actually manged to sort it last week and totally forgot to get back to you, one question I cant seem to see all my song on itunes throught my squuezebox and or joggler seems to be not picking up all the albums etc any ideas

    cheers
     
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    I have Itunes arrange my library, and so point to that directory.If your music is in different places you can add additional directories. In terms of other drives etc.... you can change in the control panel for squeezeserver

    i've attached two pics showing where....
     

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    are those menus from a PC....?

    the logitech media server running on my mac looks nothing like that...?
     
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    these are what i have.....but even though i have selected "my book" as the target drive for my media it still not showing on the joggler...??

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    On the PC version there is a "Rescan" option under Status that will look for and add new media.

    It might be under one of the other tabs.....?

    It's in a section called "Media Scan Details"

    HTH,
     
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    got it.....!!!! in the logitech control panel i was totaly overlooking the advanced button which takes you to the folder options and rescan option....all done

    thanks for your help......

    any ideas on how many jogglers you could have running and streaming at the same time...? thinking of already getting a few more one the for kitchen, bathroom bedroom and maybe even the workshop if the wireless reaches that far.....!

    N
     
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    How does spotify run on this? All I want is to put a ap on the joggler and have it play my spotify offline/online playlists via my amp.
     
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    I believe the cap is set by your hardware - I've had 3 different zones working and a controller.

    One thing it's worth remembering is that these software players struggle to keep sync whereas the the hardware players buffer the content much better so they are much less susceptible to latency across the network.

    If you've got a couple across opposite ends of the house you'll be fine but I wouldn't recommend you put two software implemented players in zones next to each other and sync them.

    Spotify is supported but I don't use it so can't say I'm afraid.
     

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