Nvidia GTX1080ti/2080 prices?

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  1. Atmos

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    OK the Pimax is looking good for October but its going to need at least a GTX1080ti or higher.

    I'm currently on a GTX1070 so looking for a value upgrade.

    It's still too early to guage the performance between the 1080ti and 2080 for VR. I don't think Ray Tracing is going to play a big part in VR for the next couple of years.

    So does one get the GTX1080ti on the cheap or pay the extra and get the RTX2080 if performance is equal?

    Scans cheapest GTX1080ti is £599

    Scans cheapest RTX2080 is £715.49

    Getting the RTX is more but might be more sellable in a year or two.
     
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    I'd say go for the most powerful GPU that you can afford, the 2080. That's ALWAYS my advice when it comes to hardware.
     
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    I just hate giving in to greed though.

    Questions remain, when will Nvidia stop GTX1080ti production.

    What card do you have @snowdog?
     
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    I've got a Palit Super Jetstream 1080. Palit cards are awesome, great value for money.
     
  5. MikeKay1976

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    AFAIK they already have mate. Current stock is just getting rid. I can't cite source as no idea where I read it but I did see a post a few months ago maybe 3 where a poster said he saw the last ever 10 X chip roll off the production line before it was wrapped up. Of course that chip still needed to go through the system.

    Obviously it's uncertain times now but for me the 1080ti now is a card to look for on the 2nd hand market only. Yes it may have an edge in brute force speed against the vanilla 2080 now but going forward I think this will change.
    If I had £700 to spend it would be on a 2080. 2nd hand 1080tis I think are gonna be great buys in a month's time as people upgrade.£350 -£400 is what I am expecting.
     
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    Honestly I wouldn't buy any expensive electronic equipment second hand. You're ALWAYS better off with a warranty.

    As for the performance of each card we have no idea because there's still an embargo in place but once these benchmark results are known it should be remembered that over time driver updates will increase the performance of the 2080 a bit.
     
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    Go with the new one. You won't have buyers remorse and the value of it won't drop as quickly (% wise) as the 1080 - the used market will be flooded with them soon!
     
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    Some cards have transferable warranties tho
    I suppose there is some risk but a 1080ti for £350 will tempt me if I have not already got a 2080 (ti?).
    With hindsite I would have got a 1080ti at launch. It is a great card and I think will see out the 20xx generation and then be replaceable when the next gen comes out which should hopefully be much better at raytracing and more games will support it.
    Too late now tho like I said I would not pay these prices for a new 1080ti now
     
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    A 60-70% increase over my 1080 with the 2080Ti would put me in the happy category and give me breathing room for the Pimax 8K I think. I won't be considering upgrading until the 2280 (or 2280Ti) after that, unless AMD pull something truly amazing out of the bag.

    My biggest concern at the moment is at what point I need to swap out my 6700K/Z170 for something faster. It hasn't really struggled with anything yet and I'm hoping to squeeze out a few more years from that platform.
     
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    Probably around the same time you get your 2280 at the VERY earliest I reckon, I can't see a 6700K being bottlenecked anytime soon.
     
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    Overclockers now have the MSI GTX1080ti at £599.

    With the second hand market still high you just can’t get a bargain. So I’ve gone for the above offer while stocks last.

    I don’t have any faith in RTX this generation especially for 4k or VR.

    The plan is to see an RTX price crash in 12 months and some added VR benefit.

    I’ll sell my GTX1070 for £300ish I reckon.

    Now the Pimax 8k has the ability to reduce FOV the GTX1080ti should be fine with those problem games.

    Fingers crossed.
     
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    I am also tempted with that msi card. i have the 980 (vanilla) version of their card and have been happy with it.£599 tho... this is what, £50 less than launch RRP for that card?. it will pain me to buy it as i could have gotten it 2 years ago for that price and had much higher end vr gaming for that entire period. :(

    i think the RTX 2080ti is a bit rich for me, so it would be a toss up between something like that 1080ti for £600 or the MSI "duke" RTX 2080 which i can pre-order for £715.

    we need those damn benchmarks out from reputable people and using release drivers. roll on Friday when the embargo lifts.
     
  13. Atmos

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    For me it’s either go GTX1080ti or all out like @ArmitageShanks with a RTX2080ti.

    I feel your pain @MikeKay1976 Nvidias lack of benchmarks hasn’t made it easy. With VR and RTX it’s probably the worse time to upgrade.

    Do you go all out for high cores or hope RTX makes it worthwhile. I’m betting on high core count for VR.

    Saving 40% GPU usage not using any SS on the Pimax 8k and the extra 30-40% power on the 1080ti should make up for the 5k target render. I can only hope it’s enough to last 12 months before either AMD or Nvidia get their act together.

    RTX on a 2070 or 2080 seems a no go for 5k.
     
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    Well my GTX1080ti is in the list. 3 years warranty and Destiny promotion.

    If I’m right it will still be faster than a RTX2080 for VR.

    I don’t see any games coming to VR with Ray Tracing for another 12-24 months which means I save £150 not buying a RTX2080.

    I see @MikeKay1976 you've been exploring a RTX2080. How you getting on?
     
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    You'll probably see the 2080 performing better than the 1080Ti but not by much. Probably 5-10% difference I expect if previous generations are anything to go by.
     
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    But faster at what? I’m buying specifically for VR and the TI performs better at high resolutions.

    We will see.
     
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    DLSS is where the 20xx series may shine... if that works in VR it could be a game changer.

    in death is going to support ray tracing which is interesting. i think ray tracing in VR will be simply jaw dropping.... i question if the cards have the grunt to push it properly esp in VR going on what we have seen so far... but who am i to question the devs about the limitations of their own game?

    FWIW i tried to order a RTX 2080 last night for £715.49. and my cc was declined for suspicious activity.

    maybe its fate. ;)
     
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    I was reading on the Overclockers Forum. :)
     
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    I think you may be disappointed. AFAIK, it's just using the variable rate shading feature of RTX, not raytracing. NVidia pulled a bit of a fast one by including titles in the RTX list without specifying which RTX features each used.
     
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    Plus isn’t DLSS dependant on Dev support? It might not catch on for VR for another 12 months.

    My GTX1080ti should come by mid day. I just checked out Overclockers and it’s already shot up to £649.99.

    The RTX’s have gone up £50 too! Crazy prices.

    Hopefully in 12 month AMD will have something competitive and worth buying at a decent price.
     
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    We're in. :)

    Heaven Benchmark has gone from 2350 to 3750. A 55% increase.
     
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    That coming from a 1070? Quite a nice bump!
     
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    Nice card the 1080ti and the cooler on that MSI card is great (I have similar one on my MSI 980.)
    I don't think you will be disappointed with the 1080ti regardless of the RTX 2080 I think it's a coin toss which will be best
     
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    Yeah a MSI ArmourGTX1070.

    Apart from the speed this one has a nice backplate and some LED lights, ooooh.
     
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    Looks like you can save some money on a Christmas tree this year! Win-win! :D
     
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    I don’t know how to tell the kids, Santa won’t be coming this year.
     
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    Then again I suppose they can have one Knuckle controller each. My kids will love em!
     
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    Just run 3DMark TimeSpy Benchmark - Score 7806.

    Graphics score 57.2% up.
     
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    With some overclocking I've reached 3950 in Heaven Benchmark. Thats a 68% increase overall.
     
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    Make sure you don't overclock your GDDR5 too much. There's always a sweet spot for overclocking RAM, if you overclock too much you can lose performance whilst still having a stable card.
     

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