I know all about NTSC judder and in fact first noticed it before I knew about the differences between NTSC and PAL when I got my first R! dvd Fight Club, at the time I just thoght it was my player tho! Anyway I never really notice NTSC judder apart from panning shots, a couple of months ago I was watching my X-Men dvd and I forgot it was NTSC. However I was watching my R1 Two Towers the other day and the judder was really bad, not just panning shots but the whole film seemed really jerky. Now I don't know if was just me convincing myself it was there or it was just to do with the way it was filmed with lots of fast movement and action on screen and a very sharp transfer. I've also been watching my princess Mononoke R1 dvd recenlty but seeign as the is animation I don't really notice the judder at all apart from panning shots. Anyone with the R1 or even the R2 Two Towers have any opinions on this? I find recently that I'm also doing the same with Pal DVD's, I find myself thinking "Am I actaully noticing a higher pitch and everything moving faster or am I just convincing myself that i'm noticing them?!" Anyway I was just wondering how much other people notice the NTSC judder, do you not notice it at all, what is your general opinion on it? Do you hate it and prefer Pal, do you sometime notice it but not bother you? Should be watching The Two Towers again tonight so i'll see how it goes! I know I should forget about all this and just enjoy the film but it is really bugging me!